Ivy…you’re Belle????

@Davis – That girl is me.

RE: And I’m certain in some environments where the number of religious people are high that religious groups can virtually monopolise the opportunities for “joining a community” but I don’t agree for a second that it is the “only” solution.

You are wrong on so many levels. But we can agree to disagree.

As to the likelihood of utilizing alternate physics i doubt it also but it may be possible.

Indeed I don’t get it. He’s on the one hand admitting that in fact there may be some unknown route to free will…but somehow knowingly claim humans don’t have access to this (how do you know that?) and that AI might (how do you know that?). I mean either…[Read more]

Says the expert in ad hominems who started this whole topic to provoke and who escalates disagreements with “happy spirited” snark. I never claimed to know better than you, I have no idea if free will exists, I simply did something (and two other users here) that you haven’t done which is educated myself a little on both sides of the debate.…[Read more]

Reg,

I would have told the Padre: “Fine, but if you get some virus that locks up your Skyrim joystick, don’t come crying to me.  You can join the Southern Baptists and boycott yourself out of the Information Age!” 😛

Ivey,

You bring up a lot of interesting questions.  I can answer a few.

There are religious bodies that are non-credal even to the point of not requiring belief in a God, namely Unitarian-Universalism, Ethical Culture, and The Universal Life Church.

These three bodies do not require exclusivity, so you could be a member, yet also identify with…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:

jakelafort wrote:

Free will requires an escape valve from the chains of determinism and the randomness of quantum physics. The only thing i can imagine acquiring free will is AI. When and if super intelligence emerges it may be possible for it to utilize different laws of physics than we are subject to and in so doing be…

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Davis wrote:

Besides, this is a DISCUSSION forum not a book club.

That’s no excuse unseen to be so intellectually lazy. Zheesh

Davey the Downer with his ad hominems. Zheesh!

Get in the spirit of the thing. Instead of gratuitously attacking a discussant, fucking CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING!

Your fly bys are so obviously mean-spirited. Grow up!

Davis w…

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it’s a solution only a philosopher or expert of some sort can understand.

No unseen. There is an enormous spectrum in between “a trite summary of a highly complex topic into a couple paragraphs” and “having to study something for years and become an expert”. There is an ocean in between those two polar opposites. And it can be found in something c…[Read more]

Besides, this is a DISCUSSION forum not a book club.

That’s no excuse unseen to be so intellectually lazy. Zheesh