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  • jakelafort replied to the topic Israel vs Middle East in the forum Politics 1 day ago

    Robert writes…….but damn…they could be some incredibly entitled, righteous bastards.

    That is exactly what i was trying to convey. But on top of that it was the English and other colonizers who had the burden of imparting their superior culture. Kipling is a good writer but he reflected White man’s burden Lloyd.

  • _Robert_ replied to the topic Israel vs Middle East in the forum Politics 1 day, 1 hour ago

    I think Kipling is overrated, LOL. I appreciate Victorian art and such….but damn…they could be some incredibly entitled, righteous bastards.

  • jakelafort replied to the topic Israel vs Middle East in the forum Politics 1 day, 1 hour ago

    Just looked it up. My association of the phrase with Kipling was spot on but it is a poem which i forgot. That guy google knows everything.

    Take up the White Man’s burden—

    Send forth the best ye breed—

    Go send your sons to exile

    To serve your captives’ need

    To wait in heavy harness

    On fluttered folk and wild—

    Your new-caught, sullen…[Read more]

  • jakelafort replied to the topic Israel vs Middle East in the forum Politics 1 day, 2 hours ago

    Robert ya got the reference. My sense is that it is Rudyard Kipling or at least his mien.

  • _Robert_ replied to the topic Israel vs Middle East in the forum Politics 1 day, 2 hours ago

    I always assumed the “White man’s burden, Lloyd” in “The Shining” was referring to booze…but I did wonder about that line. You know, I could use an imaginary bartender around here.

  • jakelafort replied to the topic Israel vs Middle East in the forum Politics 1 day, 4 hours ago

    Davis, the British fucked over a great many people. Ever read about their role in the Irish famine? It is not just their colonialism. White man’s burden, Lloyd. The thing is some Jews never left Palestine. And after the diaspora and various rounds of persecution Jews returned to Palestine. Jews were thrown out of England and France. Forgot the…[Read more]

  • Davis replied to the topic Israel vs Middle East in the forum Politics 1 day, 5 hours ago

    Jake…the British occupied of the Levant was imposed on Palestine, they were not welcomes with open arms and would have happily had their own state after centuries of foreign rule by other powers. Or did you think that Palestine invited a massive migration of people from another continent and then suddenly changed their minds?

    I am not picking a…[Read more]

  • PopeBeanie replied to the topic Israel vs Middle East in the forum Politics 1 day, 9 hours ago

    Rest assured, it wasn’t my intention to derail Unseen’s thread on Taiwan.

    I think it’s ok to go off-topic if it’s ok with the topic’s creator. I probably would have let an off-topic comment or two stay, but it grew into more posts even after Unseen asked to keep the topic on Taiwan… plus I agree that Israel’s worthy of…[Read more]

  • _Robert_ replied to the topic Israel vs Middle East in the forum Politics 2 days, 5 hours ago

    Robert – The more I read of that anti-vaxxer website the more I think “Yeah, let them go to their god”. I cannot muster much sympathy for them, which to a point annoys me as I have plenty of sympathy and empathy generally. It is just I don’t want to use it up on people with their attitudes. I have little time for the…

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  • jakelafort replied to the topic Israel vs Middle East in the forum Politics 2 days, 6 hours ago

    How can we have any confidence youngsters will live out their natural lives? It feels like we are accelerating towards our extinction. A level of irrationalism that would make a novel or movie too unrealistic to hold my interest…

    The persistence of belief smashes rationalism into a million pieces..

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