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  • I get the causality problems with making ‘real choices’. The one path to free will in my mind depends on the answer to the following question. Have biological systems harnessed quantum weirdness to increase survival chances (via choices.)? Life is just so ‘different’ than inanimate matter.

    Yeah, maybe free will is…

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  • I get the causality problems with making ‘real choices’. The one path to free will in my mind depends on the answer to the following question. Have biological systems harnessed quantum weirdness to increase survival chances (via choices.)? Life is just so ‘different’ than inanimate matter.

    Yeah, maybe free will is due to “spooky…[Read more]

  • There are only two ways things might happen, Autumn: 1) due to immediately antecedent conditions or 2) a miracle happens. I’m not sure an English class, even on the graduate level, will get us past that dichotomy.

    You appear to be responding to a point I am not making. It makes no sense to define a term in a way t…

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  • Robert, i don’t see that you have explained your thoughts on how injecting quantum randomness is a path to free will. In fact the consensus is that randomness itself gives no freedom. We would think it inane to ascribe choice when a paramecium dodges left of an amoeba to avoid being consumed. We conceive of their world as utterly mechanistic.…[Read more]

    • We would think it inane to ascribe choice when a paramecium dodges left of an amoeba to avoid being consumed.

      Certainly a salt molecule does not have that choice and…

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        • BTW, I considers survival in an ever changing environment analogous to cracking a ‘survival’ code. I have tested the security of software using a random number generator as a seed into cracking our system.
          • Isn’t the ‘randomness’ necessary to confer a survival advantage the variation brought about through mutations and genetic and epigenetic changes? In fact it seems to me that randomness might defeat or contravene evolution.
              • Yes, I think mutations are just another example of life harnessing randomness to it’s advantage. Without randomness one would stick to the main thread branch…how boring would that be, LOL. It brings new possibilities to a an otherwise deterministic path.
                  • Quite possibly i haven’t a clue but i am asserting the constituents or building blocks of life will replicate and given identical conditions, identical stimuli will…

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            • I also think that somehow ‘ideas’ and mental creativity are related subjects to ‘choices’. Is an idea physical? Certainly ideas need ‘life’ and matter to manifest and transfer/propagate but clearly ideas and information have an abstract, non material characteristic.

            • Nuclear decay is a quantum activity that is said to be random, spontaneous and independent of how long the atom has been in existence, for example. We are limited to general predictions about ‘half-life’.

              I don’t claim to know a lot about QM. Presently, I do think ultimately ‘choice making’ will cease being a philosophical/semantical subject when…[Read more]

            • Lets forget about the word “freewill” for a while. How is a choice ‘distinct from reflex’ as you say? Living systems do exhibit distinct properties. They make choices. There has to be a mechanism.

              Definitionally, reflex is an automatic response to a stimulus and choice is a conscious process of deliberation. Even if we could d…[Read more]

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