Site-Wide Activity

Nein, nein, Wittgenstein, the sun will rise right on time.

Yes, but causality, and our knowledge about causality, are two different things.

@ Unseen:

If I drop a bowling ball, I expect it to drop. Is causality more than an expectation based on past experience?

So, causal statements aren’t facts. Maybe that is what Wittgenstein meant.

I think that is exactly what he meant. But what if you had never seen a bowling ball drop before? Knowledge only comes from experience and you have n…[Read more]

Is it not even more useless to say that causality is a fiction, when it isn’t?

It may seem unwieldy, but it’s accurate, and therefore useful.  For example, if we want to make things better for ourselves, we have to put multiple measures in place.

Simon Paynton wrote:

Looking at @popebeanie‘s posted explanation from Quora, I think Wittgenstein was talking crap in this case, because he doesn’t acknowledge that everything has multiple causes, which Buddha knew millennia before.

Looked at that way, the notion of causality seems rather useless due to being unwieldy.

jakelafort wrote:

I used the search function for New Scientist but that article does not appear. Our minds work outside causal reality? WTF? I would like to know what makes you think so. Even it were so and i in know way concede it is so, it does not follow or establish that there are gods, irrespective of whether those imagined entities operate…

[Read more]

I used the search function for New Scientist but that article does not appear.

Our minds work outside causal reality? WTF? I would like to know what makes you think so. Even it were so and i in know way concede it is so, it does not follow or establish that there are gods, irrespective of whether those imagined entities operate causally. Btw…[Read more]

[Read more]

Yeah, i have read about that council, other councils and about precursors. That is not what i am asking you. Step outside your comfort zone and answer me…CONCEPTUALLY, why is there any validity to any of it? Again a text can not authenticate itself. Is there any rational reason to believe that what has been handed down whether in its original…[Read more]

“Michael, are you sure you are not dogmatic in this opinion and more importantly in your approach to reality? You take great care to differentiate your views from those of mainstream Christianity. How do those  differ? Both mainstream and Michael-think spring from authority and doctrine and are held/cherished as cocksure. Once a…[Read more]

Michael, are you sure you are not dogmatic in this opinion and more importantly in your approach to reality? You take great care to differentiate your views from those of mainstream Christianity. How do those differ? Both mainstream and Michael-think spring from authority and doctrine and are held/cherished as cocksure.

Once a person has fully…[Read more]

@Jakelafort

Just me positing, nothing dogmatic.

Looking at @popebeanie‘s posted explanation from Quora, I think Wittgenstein was talking crap in this case, because he doesn’t acknowledge that everything has multiple causes, which Buddha knew millennia before.

What a shitty way to live Michael.

I gather that putative evidence that contradicts your understanding is rejected. The evidence is either specious or intended to deceive. Isn’t that a bit myopic though to assume that we are IT. Is there anything deceptive or contradictory about life in other parts of the universe? It may be imagined that life…[Read more]

<li style=”list-style-type: none;”>

<li class=”d4p-bbp-quote-title”>

jakelafort wrote:So aliens are nonexistent because they would be supernatural?

Once you posit God then angels are posited also. Good and Bad ones. I posit that UFOs and aliens are supernatural just as the Mary apparition, sent to deceive.” Men’s hearts failing from fear of…

[Read more]

So aliens are nonexistent because they would be supernatural?

jakelafort wrote:

Michael, if we were visited by super-intelligent aliens and compelled to answer yes or no as to whether history attests to the accuracy of the prophecy of the book of revelation on pain of execution for an incorrect answer how would you answer?

A Rod Serling  or Outer Limits adventure. If it were possible for
non-supernatural…

[Read more]

@Reg

That’s impressive. My kudos to her!

Michael, if we were visited by super-intelligent aliens and compelled to answer yes or no as to whether history attests to the accuracy of the prophecy of the book of revelation on pain of execution for an incorrect answer how would you answer?