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jakelafort wrote:

Michael it is almost certainly super sonic speed of light defying angels. Blake wrote sumpin that is instructive…and the angel told Tom, if he’d be a good boy, he’d have God for his father and never want joy. So there you have it. Blake was in on the prophecy. Blake must have witnessed the angel speed popping the field and used…

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@JodyLee….that was post rave chill album. There is a line in it that sounds like “Buy me an E, buy me an E”……

Nice… I could relax to that and set my brain to recess mode.

This is my stoner jam…

works for me…

Just found one of my all time fav stoner albums which is no longer available. Sunday School may be a little late…

This is my brain on dope.

That same sentiment of the penitent in doing penance is present when ancients and not so ancients make sacrifices. But i have a feeling when the transition from polytheism to theism was made a concomitant intensity was exacted both in terms of terms and intensity of feeling.

Ah, Hitchens. 🥰

Yes, the act of taking responsibility and making necessary amends was the lesson  I was conveying to Liam, my son…No vicarious redemption of asking God to wash away my sins.

I wonder if words with similar meanings in other languages have religious connotation as well?

Piper piped a song for Trump so he stained the populace with his rural pen.

Trump fires Michael Atkinson for doing his sworn duty? That will take some forgiving. Oh wait, no remorse so it will never happen. That means “revenge” is on the cards.

You want a word revolution Jody? Count me in!! Not enough of them. Smash the system!!! 🙂

Most of these words only have a religious connotation because their meaning have been usurped into religious speak.

You can feel remorse even if your had no hand in causing the event, determined or otherwise. Repentance is the wrong word though for what I think you mean. We should try to make amends for our actions if we feel remorse.  It means…[Read more]

Robert, i think there is of necessity a dualism for a proponent of determinism. None of us can escape its hold over us and our affairs. We know that when we calmly reflect and are being philosophical. At same time as we live our lives we feel all of the emotions and inevitably dislike, condemn, hate, love, like. cuz we have no choice in the…[Read more]

Yeah Jody i guess you are right. I don’t know origin of contrition. But a sinner in the hands of an angry god will feel contrite. So will an atheist though who has done somebody wrong song. My distaste for repentance is probably mostly emotional.

@Robert

I’m still evaluating my personal level of determinism. At this point in time, I DO still feel guilt for some wrong doing on my part. I understand though what you mean. A hard determinist would likely not feel remorseful.

@jake

Contrition even has somewhat of  a religious connotation to it as right? We need a word revolution! Lol

Would a true determinist feel actual remorse? That is to say they simply feel sad over what had to happen versus remorse over choices made. The answer hinges on that. I still feel I have some control and thus feel remorse when I cause harm. I prefer restitution over repentance as I have come to understand that term.

What’s the problem with just using remorse?

Hi Jody,

I think repentance has a strictly religious provenance. It can be used more broadly but rarely is. If ya feel ya fucked up and feel shitty about it i would go with contrition or a synonym. Repentance is just too strongly and sickeningly religious for my liking. There is something depraved about it as the sinner bows to the great…[Read more]

For me, repentance means to change one’s mind about what one is doing: what I previously did and enjoyed, I now publicly admit is wrong.  If I was a wife beater, and then had a change of heart and turned over a new leaf, and publicly stated this, I would be repenting.