Did the Nephilim walk the earth?

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    @michael17 – You posted a link to the ancient-origins pseudo-scientific website to bolster the credibility of a Tiktok video about some fantasy Biblical characters from the Book of Genesis?? You win this one Michael 🙂

     

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    _Robert_
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    @michael17 – You posted a link to the ancient-origins pseudo-scientific website to bolster the credibility of a Tiktok video about some fantasy Biblical characters from the Book of Genesis?? You win this one Michael 🙂

    Numbers 24:8

    God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of a unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.

    #45563

    michael17
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    @michael17 – You posted a link to the ancient-origins pseudo-scientific website to bolster the credibility of a Tiktok video about some fantasy Biblical characters from the Book of Genesis?? You win this one Michael 🙂

    I find no reference to the site Ancient Origins   as being a pseudo science site. They make no claims that are not back up by the evidence. The archeological texts however have claimed without evidence that these feats were accomplished with copper and rock tools. Whereas masons are confounded to reproduce such, even with modern tools.

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    michael17
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    Andesite, a rock that cannot be cut with known ancient tools was the material of choice… Is andesite not a generic name for specific types of rock just as sedimentary is? Who is the expert on ancient tools that claims that it cannot be cut. Was this known to geologists before the invention of Tiktok?

    There are theories on how it was done but nothing involving primitive tools, but rather advanced ingenuity:

    https://www.geopolymer.org/archaeology/tiahuanaco-monuments-tiwanaku-pumapunku-bolivia/

    #45569

    TheEncogitationer
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    Fellow Unbelievers and Michael17,

    I thought I had posted this last night, but evidently it didn’t go through.

    Andesite–Wikipedia
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andesite

    Yes, it is a real and distinct rock, however, since it is a composite of silica-poor basalt and silica-rich rhyolite, it has silica of different proportions. I’m not a Geologist, but I do know from playing with silica that it chips easily. Likewise, obsidian is also volcanic and also chips easily and can form arrowheads and knives so sharp that surgeons to this day still use obsidian blades.

    Since volcanic rocks and silica both chip easily, andesite doesn’t seem all that insurmountable.

    Now regarding body mods, there is much truth in this too. French author Victor Hugo spoke of “The Comprachicos.” These were children in Asia kidnapped at birth and raised in vases until they outgrew the vases, when the vases were chipped open to reveal vase-shaped children who were showcased for freak-show entertainment of royalty and rabble. Barbaric!

    Fortunately, there are also temporary, friendly, painless medical ways of using the same technique to make children develop stronger, harder skulls and seal gaps between skull plates.

    Helmet Therapy for Your Baby | Johns Hopkins Medicine
    https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/helmet-therapy-for-your-baby

    I’ve seen these before and had my own conjectures, but I was always hesitant to ask parents about them. Now that I know what they are, I am happy to see that littles ones benefit from this properly applied technology.

    But, yeah, Michael17, this is easily, rationally explainable phenomena here, no angel and human Celestial Fever going on here.

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    TheEncogitationer
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    Unseen,

    A song for you and Scarlett’s dining, dancing, and bouncy-bouncy pleasure 😎:

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    rhonjon
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    Without resorting to biblical mythology, I still find the building of the pyramids a puzzle and am dissatisfied with some of the explanations I’ve run across.

    1.       Slave labor – let’s say the average stone in the pyramids weighed in at 5 tons. It would take 33+ slaves, each one able to bench press 300 lbs. would there be enough surface area for that many strong men to press on the stone and make it move. They’d all have to press at the exact same time to distribute the weight evenly, and they’d all be lifting their maximum (300 lbs.)

    2.       Rollers – how did they lift the stones onto the rollers?

    3.       Ramps – again, how could there be enough surface area for enough men to push a stone up a ramp? That would be uphill, against gravity, so the stone would require even more strength.

    It’s not enough to say the slaves must have done these things simply because you don’t want to believe in Nephilim. I’m not offering a theory on how the pyramids were built. Without hard evidence of the actual builders, all we have is conjecture about who they were. Like Nietzsche said or was it Einstein?), there is no proof. Only interpretation.

     

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    _Robert_
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    Just a few clever force multipliers no doubt. Mechanical leverage is an amazing thing.

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    michael17
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    Without resorting to biblical mythology, I still find the building of the pyramids a puzzle and am dissatisfied with some of the explanations I’ve run across. 1. Slave labor – let’s say the average stone in the pyramids weighed in at 5 tons. It would take 33+ slaves, each one able to bench press 300 lbs. would there be enough surface area for that many strong men to press on the stone and make it move. They’d all have to press at the exact same time to distribute the weight evenly, and they’d all be lifting their maximum (300 lbs.) 2. Rollers – how did they lift the stones onto the rollers? 3. Ramps – again, how could there be enough surface area for enough men to push a stone up a ramp? That would be uphill, against gravity, so the stone would require even more strength. It’s not enough to say the slaves must have done these things simply because you don’t want to believe in Nephilim. I’m not offering a theory on how the pyramids were built. Without hard evidence of the actual builders, all we have is conjecture about who they were. Like Nietzsche said or was it Einstein?), there is no proof. Only interpretation.

    To date there is no explanation for the impossible masonry in Cusco, Peru nor at Tiahuanaco,  Bolivia. What has Been found, however are voluminous skulls that can not be explained by head binding.

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    rhonjon
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    Just a few clever force multipliers no doubt. Mechanical leverage is an amazing thing. <iframe title=”AMAZING VIDEO! Man Lifts 20 Ton Block By Hand?” src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/E5pZ7uR6v8c?feature=oembed” width=”670″ height=”377″ frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=””></iframe>

    We have no more evidence of this mechanical device than we have of the Nephilim. It is all conjecture. Did they use biodegradable machinery that simply decomposed?

     

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    _Robert_
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    Just a few clever force multipliers no doubt. Mechanical leverage is an amazing thing. <iframe title=”AMAZING VIDEO! Man Lifts 20 Ton Block By Hand?” src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/E5pZ7uR6v8c?feature=oembed” width=”670″ height=”377″ frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=””></iframe>

    We have no more evidence of this mechanical device than we have of the Nephilim. It is all conjecture. Did they use biodegradable machinery that simply decomposed?

    We didn’t know the ancients built incredibly accurate mechanical astrological gear-computers either, till we lucked out and found one in the sea. The subtle dimensional design of the Parthenon that takes perspective from a distance into account for example, is astounding. Yeah, wooden structures rarely last more than a few hundred years and wood in an arid region would almost certainly be repurposed. They had their geniuses; some may have been on par with a Newton or Einstein. I don’t so easily dismiss the abilities and intellect of the ancients. Their con men priests were just as clever as any Bernie Madoff. In fact, their cons are still fooling people more than 2,000 years later. Our friend @michael17 is one of them, still believing in a very compelling ancient con job.

    #47267

    rhonjon
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    Just a few clever force multipliers no doubt. Mechanical leverage is an amazing thing. <iframe title=”AMAZING VIDEO! Man Lifts 20 Ton Block By Hand?” src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/E5pZ7uR6v8c?feature=oembed” width=”670″ height=”377″ frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen=””></iframe>

    We have no more evidence of this mechanical device than we have of the Nephilim. It is all conjecture. Did they use biodegradable machinery that simply decomposed?

    We didn’t know the ancients built incredibly accurate mechanical astrological gear-computers either, till we lucked out and found one in the sea. The subtle dimensional design of the Parthenon that takes perspective from a distance into account for example, is astounding. Yeah, wooden structures rarely last more than a few hundred years and wood in an arid region would almost certainly be repurposed. They had their geniuses; some may have been on par with a Newton or Einstein. I don’t so easily dismiss the abilities and intellect of the ancients. Their con men priests were just as clever as any Bernie Madoff. In fact, their cons are still fooling people more than 2,000 years later. Our friend @michael17 is one of them, still believing in a very compelling ancient con job.

     

    Now that could serve as hard evidence of your point. Thank you.

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