Do you know RFK jr.'s actual view on vaccines? Probably not.
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Typical numbers late in the pandemic: 9.29 unvaccinated vs 0.55 boosted per 100K death rate for the elderly. Sixteen times more likely to die. So yes, the million dead (mostly older folks) could have been 16 million. See how that works? imagine the emergency rooms then? That’s right, think about that, because RFK jr for president is incapable of that.
What a shame some Americans think science is done on Facebook or Youtube. The Republicans are even more of an anti-science party. They say vaccines aren’t safe but are they increasing funding for even more testing? Of course not.
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Interesting question. Unless you’re one of the “If it saved one life” people, were the lockdowns and restrictions on association worth it, given the damage to the economy and the devastating effects on the pre-collegiate educational system, was it worth it?
This is a country of around 338+ million people and any policy however seemingly inane is almost certain to kill people. The impact fell mostly on the smaller businesses and their workers and on schoolchildren deprived of a proper and effective education and the socialization that comes with attending school. Covid was primarily not a disease killing children, even when they contracted it.
It was worse for the racial minorities, the poor, and the most vulnerable among us, making the rich richer and more powerful while having the opposite effect on the lowest rungs of society.
Beyond that, we have the new poor who had an income until the lockdowns destroyed their jobs by destroying their employers. While no sector was spared, we’re talking about marginal workers in the restaurant and hospitality industries.
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What’s the use? Your and my interaction here looks like we’re just talking at a brick wall between us. And the brick wall is a display with YouTube running on it.
But I’ll to try to answer your last question to me. I’m fully aware of the costs of the lockdowns. I think they failed because of too many Americans, especially Trumpians and Libertarians believing their right to not comply with (imo) reasonable countermeasures even if it’s for the good of each other, and because of not understanding basic epidemiology. To this day, I’m hearing “masks don’t work”. While an unusually geeky person like myself understands that slowing or eliminating disease spread is not a matter of having 100% compliance and well-fitting masks, but there are gray areas in between where even with just partial compliance hundreds of thousands of lives could be saved.
There had to be high costs no matter what we did, short of actually learning some basic epidemiology.
I seal my masks easily, with 3M foam strips that are sold as “glasses defoggers”. When I breath in, my masks gain suction and actually collapse toward my face… while 95% of masks I see people wearing don’t collapse at all, as air freely moves in and out via the air gap at the bridge of the nose, and via the loose-fitting sides below the cheek bones. Sticking that foam strip on is simple as hell, and it’s not even visible, so there’s no reason to feel like you’ll be made fun of by your efforts. While people are so much more concerned by how they look or what side of the political divide they look like they belong to, than how they can actually help save thousands or hundreds of thousands of American lives. Wow, personal vanity, political affiliation, and theoretical principles of libertarianism.
To be clear, I’m not saying masks fully work. Even though I never caught a damn thing in three years while wearing a mask, except for one contact-vector virus I got when being careless with my hands. The number of respiratory infections and hospitalizations around the world decreased significantly during the pandemic, so SOMETHING worked to make that possible, right? Do we ever talk about THAT in our conversations?
I’ll repeat, because I’ve not gotten responses when saying before: I took air quality (AQ) seriously, starting back in 2017 when smoke from fires became a seasonal hazard. I built a simple HEPA filter device from a milk jug, HEPA vacuum cleaner filter, CPAP hose, connected to a full faced scuba mask, after modifying how the air valve operated so I could breathe in via the filter and out via the air valves built into the mask. Geeky as hell, right? On a day of high smoke, my AQ meter read a very unhealthy 200 at PM2.5 particle size, while it read zero inside my milk jug with HEPA filtered air. On another day, with most of the city evacuated due to high smoke, I donned that DIY breather, walked a mile downtown, went up to the top floor of a parking garage, and looked out over blocks of smoky city with NO traffic on the streets and NO one walking on the sidewalks. In a city of 1/4 million population.
MY masks work, and I know what the fuck I’m talking about. While I’ve never met anyone who knew that foam strips exist that can seal N95 masks well enough to collapse when breathing in. (Yeah, I know I’m a freakish outlier on the bell curve of human beings in a scientifically and politically dysfunctional country.)
Can you please try to make this two-way with me, too? I only asked you for 5 to 10 minutes of watch time on a video, and your opinion on how you might judge the reliability of the presenters’ expertise, and all I got was another avoidance and repetition of past points.
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