Donald Trump

[StregaModerator]

He’s leading the republican vote base at the moment. He’s astonishingly appalling in virtually everything he says. The Huffington Post made a formal statement recently, saying that they will no longer cover his election trail in their politics section, but instead will report it in their entertainments section. The internet went crazy with a hashtag #TrumpMyCat trending on Twitter with photos of people’s cats with a Trump style head covering/back grooming.

The rest of the world looks on aghast.

How do you feel about Donald being seen as a representation of America in the 21st Century?

[DavisModerator]

Just when one thought American politics couldn’t get more insane and creepy…here comes the utterly grotesque. It cannot last forever. The United States has shocked the hell out of everyone many times before for their utter refusal to join the rest of the world in their social progress to suddenly adopting it, taking it, owning it, being the very living embodiment of it. One day

[UnseenParticipant]

I don’t know whether to call it THE REPUBLICAN CLOWN SHOW, THE REPUBLICAN CLOWN CAR, or THE REPUBLICAN DEATH MARCH.

Whatever we call it, I love it. It more or less guarantees a GOP loss in 2016, even if he doesn’t carry out his threat of a third party run if the GOP doesn’t nominate him.

Davis, come on. Trump is Trump, not The United States. Go find your brain and put it back in. He’s no more representative of The United States than some off-the-wall fascist in any European country.

After the debate with the rest of the leading GOP candidates, this was written:

Seventy-two percent of the American people support a path to citizenship. Yet, one by one, the Republicans on stage took turns attacking undocumented immigrants, many of whom were brought to this country as youngsters, through no fault of their own. By the end of the night it was clear that Donald Trump was not alone in his bellicose and anti-immigrant demagoguery.

Polls have shown that two-thirds of Americans believe that a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy in the case of rape, incest or the life of the mother. Moderator Megyn Kelly asked, in post-debate analysis: How would these men feel if their wives faced a severely problematic pregnancy? Would they allow them to die? Not one candidate on the prime time stage expressed support for the woman’s life.

Support for women’s reproductive freedom was not the only issue left out of the main debate.

Eighty-three percent of Americans believe in climate science, but climate change was not mentioned once. (source)

He’s out of touch with the American public even more than the rest of the party is in some ways, so the fact that he has shocking views is irrelevant.

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[StregaModerator]

@unseen. You can be as dismissive as you like, but for the rest of the world, Trump appears to be a serious contender for the Republican nomination. He’s out there in your shop window, garnering support. I thought we had reached the land of insanity when Mitt and his magic underwear were in the news. Now I see that was only a mild taster.

You can dismiss Trump on a personal level, but what would you think of a country with a ton of overseas clout, fielding a candidate that has to all intents and purposes, little or no claim to sanity?

[UnseenParticipant]

Strega wrote:

You can be as dismissive as you like, but for the rest of the world, Trump appears to be a serious contender for the Republican nomination.

He’s unelectable. Read the info I just edited into my prior post. Just be happy that he’s destroying the GOP’s chances of winning the 2016 presidential election with or without him.

[StregaModerator]

I read the info. I hope it’s right and he doesn’t have a shot. The point I was making was simply that his candidacy, with all its publicity, is a representation of America to those who don’t live here. And it’s a very alarming representation.

[UnseenParticipant]

Strega wrote:

The point I was making was simply that his candidacy, with all its publicity, is a representation of America to those who don’t live here. And it’s a very alarming representation.

I understand that. I’m used to people outside the US not understanding what goes on here, as when, for example, some cop in Nowheresville shoots someone apparently unjustifiably and people in Belgium or Norway or the UK start making wild generalizations embodying the assumption that every American cop is just like that.

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[.Spectator]

Now more than ever I want to get the hell out of this country. Even if it is one big freak show, the joke isn’t funny. It puts me in a stressed out state more than ever because if someone like Trump gets into office it pretty much guarantees that my own life would change in drastic ways.

I am a single mother on welfare trying to get into a more stable living situation. I have family from my ex-husband’s side that is in this country (and has been for over a decade) illegally. Like it or not, they are here and they are my cousins, and my son’s cousins. The threat of having them ripped away from us hurts. The threat of losing any sort of stability that we have hurts.

I can’t watch the news at all. It’s too upsetting. I just hope that Unseen is right and our country has the sense to get him the hell out of the nominations. If it wasn’t scary it would be funny. But for me it’s not only appauling, it’s scary.

[DavisModerator]

Unseen wrote:

I don’t know whether to call it THE REPUBLICAN CLOWN SHOW, THE REPUBLICAN CLOWN CAR, or THE REPUBLICAN DEATH MARCH.

Whatever we call it, I love it. It more or less guarantees a GOP loss in 2016, even if he doesn’t carry out his threat of a third party run if the GOP doesn’t nominate him.

Davis, come on. Trump is Trump, not The United States. Go find your brain and put it back in. He’s no more representative of The United States than some off-the-wall fascist in any European country.

After the debate with the rest of the leading GOP candidates, this was written:

Seventy-two percent of the American people support a path to citizenship. Yet, one by one, the Republicans on stage took turns attacking undocumented immigrants, many of whom were brought to this country as youngsters, through no fault of their own. By the end of the night it was clear that Donald Trump was not alone in his bellicose and anti-immigrant demagoguery.

Polls have shown that two-thirds of Americans believe that a woman should be able to terminate a pregnancy in the case of rape, incest or the life of the mother. Moderator Megyn Kelly asked, in post-debate analysis: How would these men feel if their wives faced a severely problematic pregnancy? Would they allow them to die? Not one candidate on the prime time stage expressed support for the woman’s life.

Support for women’s reproductive freedom was not the only issue left out of the main debate.

Eighty-three percent of Americans believe in climate science, but climate change was not mentioned once. (source)

He’s out of touch with the American public even more than the rest of the party is in some ways, so the fact that he has shocking views is irrelevant.

Prima donna hissy fit. What a surprise.

[Simon MathewsParticipant]

I tend not to follow the news as it depresses me so when someone told me about this I seriously thought it was a joke. Here’s a recent tweet from Trump:

“Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn’t feel good and changes – AUTISM. Many such cases!”

Wow.

[StregaModerator]

@simonm I can totally relate to your thinking it was a joke. I would have thought that too, before I moved here. I wasn’t aware of his position as an anti-vaccine proponent. Thanks, I think…

It’s a little unnerving discovering you live in a country where Mitt Romney (and his magic undies) is nowhere near the bottom of the barrel.

@unseen you have to try to see it from some other perspective from the one in your head normally.

@Bellerose I can totally relate to that being terrifying. I hadn’t thought further than the election. I don’t think I can even get my head around what a Trump Presidency might entail. Madness and mayhem for the world.

Are you Americans sure you don’t need some international help to choose the POTUS? 😉

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[UnseenParticipant]

Simon Mathews wrote:

I tend not to follow the news as it depresses me so when someone told me about this I seriously thought it was a joke. Here’s a recent tweet from Trump:

“Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn’t feel good and changes – AUTISM. Many such cases!”

Wow.

He’s a genius at starting, running, and flipping or dumping businesses. There’s no evidence he understands anything very far outside his little real estate echo chamber. I’m sure most Americans understand that. When it comes to presidential politics, the GOP is pretty much a minority party. They are a majority when it comes to the legislative branch. So, 25% or so of the minority party means he probably right now speaks for about 10% of the electorate at best. A lot of them will surely abandon him the closer we get to the nomination convention. If he’s eliminated before then, the worst he can do (which is ironically the best for most of us) is run a third party campaign that hands the election over to the Democratic Party. So, don’t lose any sleep over Trump. Just enjoy his antics knowing that he’s a clown.

[UnseenParticipant]

Strega wrote:

@unseen you have to try to see it from some other perspective from the one in your head normally.

I’m well aware of the other perspectives. Haven’t I been writing about them?

[StregaModerator]

@unseen, sorry I was unclear. I meant to see it from the perspective of someone either overseas, or with less awareness of the system of your election process.

[UnseenParticipant]

Strega wrote:

@unseen, sorry I was unclear. I meant to see it from the perspective of someone either overseas, or with less awareness of the system of your election process.

And yet, we are the ones who are so frequently criticized for being ignorant or naive regarding the inner workings of other countries.

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