Should we legalize addictive drugs?

[UnseenParticipant]

Prescription and street drugs both or one or the other. What rules would you apply (age limits, etc.)? For example, would you also want to legalize discrimination against drug users by landlords and employers?

I ask, because clearly the illegality of street drugs, for one thing, empowers the street gangs, giving them a business model.

 

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[UnseenParticipant]

What is it with all the script after my post?

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[DavisModerator]

Yea…legalise relatively harmless drugs. But those which are one way streets to disaster like heroin and cocaine should certainly be decriminalised but not legalised. The penatly for possession should be mandatory drug treatment paid for by the state and drug pushers in their jobs because of addiction or poverty or other societal problems should be rehabilitated in other ways. But you are right…in general drugs shouldn’t be treated as a sort of inexcusable evil like pedophilia is…but as a problem to be solved compassionately by attacking the roots of the problems and the most effective and humane solution. We are falliable and easily addictive people and drugs are not the force of immorality or pure weakness most people think.

[All And OneParticipant]

The problem really is that substances, addiction, and the variation in physiology is not understandable to people. If your body chemistry is doing what it can do at peace and you participate with knowledge at an apprecation/flourishing feeling there is no drug you can take that will cause you to feel something different (more than what you already feel) or feel nothing at all.

When it comes to harm, it should not be up to the legal system to keep people alive. What would the motivation be for that? It is not love and appreciation. It is not the experience of peace. Where they think they are aimed at keeping people alive why are they doing it?  The legal system and drug addicts will continue to do something with each other as long as the overall mood of both is disagreeable and they can’t understand something completely about their interests – preoccupied with part of something.

At a whole knowing of me, I am never happy to see regulation of any kind, but it is necessary where there is chemistry that takes on pressure and rapid fires to release it. This tension ultimately moves both out of sight and sound. Understand it there and it can be your reality.

[PopeBeanieModerator]

Unseen wrote:

What is it with all the script after my post?

I was wondering the same. Thinking more about it, although I know very little about javascript: It looks (possibly) like you accidentally copied some javascript code that was perhaps visible only as an icon or symbol, meant to bring up an ad. Or maybe it was even invisible but got copied anyway. Slightly suspicious looking, so watch your copy/pastes closely, in case it’s caused by something nefarious.

I can’t find your post that held it, so I can’t guess better where it may have come from. Was it in the first post, likely edited out by Reg?

[DavisModerator]

My post seems to have been edited. Not sure why. I don’t consider cocaine a drug that naturally leads to disaster (though it could for some people). But I had instead said “crocodile” which is a drug that doesn’t just lead to disaster…but one where you are already in a clusterfuck of disaster if you start taking it. Even an oppresive country like Russia has relatively liberal laws in dealing with drugs like this (which often eat away at your body even to the point that your bones are exposed). They deal with rehibilitation as do some other countries. In some U.S. states the answer is prison…which does absolutely nothing to help with drug addiction and latent problems, can make that person’s recovery and finding a job a lot more difficult if not drive that person deeper into criminality and may not deal at all with drug pushers but instead users who are certainly not always but sometimes victims of pretty terrible circumstances. I would say that kind of drug policy is really a cruel heartless version of shaming people, is very costly, doesn’t bring down drug use at all and the crime that comes with it…and ensures the US has the most bustling and economically lucrative prison system in the world.

[cecilia fxParticipant]

over 15 years ago Portugal decriminalized drugs. They handle people with addictions like it’s a medical issue rather than a legal one.

It’s been successful. Americans should try something similar.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it

 

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

They handle people with addictions like it’s a medical issue rather than a legal one.

This reminds me of the murder situation in Glasgow, and how the murder rate was brought down by treating it as a public health issue.

https://www.theguardian.com/membership/2017/dec/03/how-scotland-reduced-knife-deaths-among-young-people

 

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