Science — the kind that requires evidence and reason.

Unseen,

I always thought of human flesh as “nature’s perfect food,” with all the needed dietary necessities in perfect balance.

Until you get pat the catchy ad slogan and read the disclaimer
provided by Mother Nature which says: “While Supplies Last. Not available in Antarctica, the Seven Seas, or space.” 😁

Pope, thanks for the link. I’ve only read his seminal work. A few years ago i heard Frans de Waal on the radio discussing Mama’s Last Hug. Did you read it. If so your opinion?

Belle Rose wrote:
😂 Do you think it’s possible to be healthy eating as a vegan?

Unseen replied:
Possible, yes. Easy, only if you are ready to really obsess over what you eat.

So carnivores don’t care what they eat? I know several vegans, some of whom are vegan for over 30 years and they seldom talk about it or food unless prompted. Admittedly I…[Read more]

Thanks for the link Reg. Booker seems a decent guy although he said Justin Sinclair instead of Upton and i was very hurt with that…very very hurt…

@Jakelafort – a further discussion here – a login to Instagram is not needed.

Reg, your NY Times link is blocked.

I have a hunch that long term and too late there will be a world shift against current animal husbandry in favor of lab grown meat. If so it will be self-interest that is the impetus. We as a species don’t even care about genocides. No way as a species we care about other animals.

Good anecdote about…[Read more]

@PopeBeanie – Reg, I hope I haven’t detracted from anyone’s interest in this awesome topic!

I am doing a good enough job at derailing it myself.  Your line of thought is admirable and elevates the post. Keep it coming!

@theencogitationer – This may be just idle speculation, but I’ve heard it said that part of the Reason the Romans persecuted Christians is because they heard this talk of eating the flesh and drinking the blood of Jesus and thought it was a cannibal cult.

But it is a cannibalistic cult. Catholics MUST believe that the bread and wine becomes the b…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
PopeBeanie,

Have you tried fava beans with that? (Just thinking this reply might be a clever way to introduce another nuance wrt our evolution-related meat-eating behaviors.)

Nope, no fava beans nor a nice Chiante. 🤪 And I believe I’ve mentioned before that cannibalism, by it’s very nature, could never be a sus…

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PopeBeanie,

Have you tried fava beans with that? (Just thinking this reply might be a clever way to introduce another nuance wrt our evolution-related meat-eating behaviors.)

Nope, no fava beans nor a nice Chiante. 🤪

And I believe I’ve mentioned before that cannibalism, by it’s very nature, could never be a sustainable way of living for any…[Read more]

Reg,

Gary Larson’s The FarSide was always hysterically ingenius. I always thought his cartoon about “Gross Stories” depicted what kids would tell around the camp fire when people stop believing in the supernatural.

“Gross Stories”

This opinion piece from the NYT is called “Meet the People Getting Paid
to Kill Our Planet”, about how American agriculture is ravaging the air, soil and water. But a powerful lobby has cleverly concealed its damage.

It is part 1 of 3.

As it has embedded links and a video story, it is too difficult to copy and paste. It is most likely behind a…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
Liver is the only organ meat I’ve ever liked. The liver of the cow or chicken braised with onions and bell pepper slices and served with ketchup on the side are super, and pig liver in the form of fried, sliced loaves of liver pudding or liver mush is a great Southern breakfast treat with eggs and grits. Chicken g…

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jakelafort wrote:
Pope i am not sure if you are saying that those are unique human traits or traits that uniquely propelled us. If it is the former then i gotta say theory of mind has been more or less established in gorillas, chimps and bonobos. I would be surprised if it were not far broader than that.

Both, but neither statement nor all…[Read more]

Dat hurt to enter another group.

Credit to Robert for his point about revenge in cross species pandemics. That means the vegans/vegetarians are collateral damage.

Have not investigated but the findings do not surprise me. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/02/220208143307.htm

A big point about meat and nutrition is that processed or…[Read more]

Our ancestors, much like most modern primates surely ate whatever they could get including insects and meats. This does not automatically imply that eating meat is healthy for us with our long lifespans and lifestyles.

I’m noticing our innate tendency to simplify our scientific explanations, even among scientists, but especially in journalism. While I’m personally still struggling with how to discuss further nuances with people, without putting them to sleep. Please feel free to brew a pot of any caffeine-laced beverage… I’ll get further and farther into…[Read more]

TheEncogitationer wrote:
The liver of the cow or chicken braised with onions and bell pepper slices and served with ketchup on the side are super, and pig liver in the form of fried, sliced loaves of liver pudding or liver mush is a great Southern breakfast treat with eggs and grits.

Have you tried fava beans with that? (Just thinking this reply…[Read more]

Belle Rose wrote:
😂 Do you think it’s possible to be healthy eating as a vegan?

Possible, yes. Easy, only if you are ready to really obsess over what you eat.