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  • Secondary question:

    If these creatures could indeed be re-engineered to suffer much less and yet still continue be able to somewhat adapt to this barely ever changing planet…would you consider enabling this? If you had the choice between a little less suffering (totally pointless suffering) but a tiny chance to develop intelligence would you…[Read more]

  • just because we can’t “conceive” of a way…does that necessarily preclude a path to advancement

    Robert that is an extremely good point (one of the few nitpicking with this scenario that is as interesting as the actual answers themselves). I would say that this would have to be part of the risk assessment formula. Even if we cannot fathom how the…[Read more]

  • Robert we are talking about non-intelligent species and no conceivable way for them to develop intelligence. It is certainly not the same as a planet Earth were we can choose to continue living or not despite our suffering. In other words we aren’t helpless nor need the assistance of others to put us out of our misery.

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  • Davis replied to the topic Group logo of To Do or not To DoThe torture planet in the forum To Do or not To Do 1 week ago

    Yes indeed unseen. I should have said “intelligent” and/or “self-aware”.

    Thank you Kristina for actually answering the question. I particularly like:

    the preservation of life doesn’t, on its own, trump reduction in suffering

  • Davis replied to the topic Group logo of To Do or not To DoThe torture planet in the forum To Do or not To Do 1 week ago

    Oh dear. It seems my reply also disappeared.

    Pleasure is part of the tool box that has emerged in Earthly evolution as an aid to natural selection. For non-sentient beings I don’t think pleasure and pain are particularly balanced they both play different roles in natural selection. But there is no reason why pleasure MUST be a part of evolution.…[Read more]

  • Davis started the topic Group logo of To Do or not To DoThe torture planet in the forum To Do or not To Do 1 week ago

    So we can travel the stars. We come across a planet that has a form of life that evolved differently than us. Every single creature suffers endlessly in this world (a ghastly product of a strange evolution). Scientists have studied the hell out of them and there is no conceivable way to re-engineer them. There is zero possibility they will ever…[Read more]

  • Davis replied to the topic Are you ready for this? in the forum Theism 1 week, 1 day ago

    From God’s point of view, everything’s running fine.

    If we cannot comprehend the perfection of things then we cannot make claims about it making the whole theory fall appart.

  • Davis replied to the topic Are you ready for this? in the forum Theism 1 week, 1 day ago

    I see…so God had no choice but to create sin and sinful people?

  • Davis replied to the topic Are you ready for this? in the forum Theism 1 week, 1 day ago

    Indeed Reg those are just a few criticisms. Others easily follow:

    I can easily think of a more perfect being than a who would have created this planet with the derranged people who live on it.

    I can conceive of an absolutely perfect universe of which a universe more perfect could not be concieved and so it must exist and yet this universe is…[Read more]

  • Davis replied to the topic Are there dangerous ideas? in the forum Small Talk 1 week, 1 day ago

    People who dismiss socialism (in all its forms) are ignorant and cannot distinguish between:

    communist socialism (soviet, maoism, cuban)

    bolivarian socialism (Venezuela and for a time a few other Latin American countries)

    facist socialism (Nazi Germany)

    European modern socialism (mixed system of capitalism and generous social programs).

    If…[Read more]

  • Davis replied to the topic Are there dangerous ideas? in the forum Small Talk 1 week, 1 day ago

    The number of people who don’t end up working even though they can’t when social services are provided (and there truly is work to find) is quite low in Europe. The perspective my most non-reactionary conservative types (most people) is that there will always be a small number of people who cannot work (highly disabled or have mental problems that…[Read more]

  • Hey Robert great to see you again. Yeah forums of rabid political anger are almost always a cosmic waste of time and emotions.

  • Once you reject equal justice before the law for all and accept the premise that some classes are more worthy of protection than others, it’s a luck of the draw how “hate speech” and “hate crime” laws would be enforced.  And remember, someone you support in power will not always be there.  Someone else could enforce these laws in a way you may nev…

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  • You forget that Al-Qaeda was footed by the Saudis, so 9/11 was an act of war as well as murder.

    And I suppose war is also just a case of individuals committing crimes against individuals? Do you ever take a second to ponder what you’re about to say before you say it or is everything an instant “how do I get out of this mess reply”? Was Timothy N…[Read more]

  • No unseen I just wanted to you to answer the question. After three attempts you finally did. Thank you. I did not for a second think you were a paedophile but I wouldn’t have been surprised if you had a  nuanced take on relations between adults and non-adults as you have brought up this topic numerous times and have mentioned cultural relativism…[Read more]

  • People of “protected classes” can and will say and do hateful things against people of other “protected classes.”  The examples abound:

    Do you think you’re saying something that isn’t already obvious to everyone? There is no reason why someone of a protected class wouldn’t be charged for a hate crime against another protected class. Why would th…[Read more]

  • Crimes are committed by individuals and against individuals and need to be fought accordingly.

    I see encoginator. So when the terrorists flew their planes into the world trade centre building it was the act of a few individuals against the 4000 or so individuals who died that day? Is that the extent of their crimes simply a few individuals hurting…[Read more]

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