Reg the Fronkey Farmer

Now that is spiritual 🙂 More

For instance I avoid funerals even when friends have died.

Mostly I do too. I will usually spend time with them a few weeks later when everyone else has more or less “forgotten” about them. It is often when it means the most to them because  there is too much to take in at the time of the funeral. Sometimes nobody will call to ask them how they…[Read more]

Not a psychiatrist. A physiatrist.

OK, my spellchecker bad. But he is still a proponent of dualism.

Ivy wrote:

But when you really drill down on what he is saying and what theists say it’s all the same fucking thing LOL

No, It absolutely is not the same thing.

Maybe. I’m not dismissing the possibility.

If he ends up in a ward with Nurse Ratched giving him pills for the next 10 years because he “is still there” is it still a spiritual experience. If not, a what point did it stop being spiritual and start to have a natural explanation?

I think however you define the soul is dependent upon the lens through which you view the world. Whether you want to define it the way he does, or the way a theist does, I think it’s all one and the same thing.

No. He just invented a completely new definition that has nothing to do with how a theists views it.

For example a psychiatrist

You have engaged with a modern psychiatrist who believes in the duality of the mind and body?

It is something you do to yourself that causes a spiritual experience.

I am saying it is a physically experience. It happens in our minds. Say someone has a bummer of a trip and at the time thinks they are going to remain forever trapped in some horrible hallucination that appears vividly real to them. Are you saying that is a spiritual experience?

In that article he is redefining what tradition idea of the soul. For him it has. nothing to do with a theist soul.

But what if we revisit the definition of soul, abandoning its canonical meaning as the “spiritual or immaterial part of a human being or animal, regarded as immortal” for something more modern? What if we consider your soul as the…[Read more]

I do believe that there is a mind body and spirit, and that many physical illnesses results when the three are not aligned properly.

I have no idea of what that means.  Sounds like Woo to me. Are you talking about Chakras or ideas about Ying and Yang imbalances? Are you saying that you also have a fourth thing called a soul too?

A good trip on ayahuasca?

Yes, but that to me is a natural human experience. It occurs within my mind. If it is a “good trip” then I become more aware of myself and the world around me. My awareness of my “connectivity” with the Universe is enhanced. It all happens in my head…man!

@Simon – to remind us of our own insignificance in the scale of things for starters. Try finding a place without light pollution at night, lie down, look up for 10 minutes and report back 🙂

Simon, you would not exist if a star did not die.  Do that not inspire you?

@Ivy, so can you give me an example of a “spiritual experience” that is not  capable of  being called a natural human experience? Or is it duality of the mind and body that you think is real?

@Jody Lee

Maybe I haven’t explained myself well…….The stars died so you could be here today.

I think you have just about answered your own question. But once again we are down to the meaning of words. Let me offer something as a starting point to reach for a workable definition.

Spiritual is a general term people use to express their react…[Read more]

Have a great week everyone!

“Scientists do not join hands every Sunday and sing “Yes gravity is real! I know gravity is real! I will have faith! I believe in my heart that what goes up, up, up must come down, down, down. Amen!” If they did, we would think they were pretty insecure about the concept.”

Dan Barker.

“If there is a God, athei…[Read more]