Reg the Fronkey Farmer

I’ve got nothing to say that I haven’t said 9 times already.  I shake your hand Kristina.

Kristina wrote:

On the issues of equity, equality and human rights, the general population. That’s where it starts. I’ve already been over this. Did you think the stuff I was talking about in my first post was from the extreme right? It’s not. It’s prevalent in the general population.

But two wrongs don’t make a…[Read more]

I don’t have to explain to you why I wasn’t “woke” enough.  If an idea doesn’t have credibility, I’m not going to be attracted to it.

Kristina – that’s fine, and I do take a responsibility to educate myself about marginalised groups and their difficulties.  But if someone’s acting like a silly arse, while trying to tell everyone they have problems – people aren’t going to believe they have problems.  That’s the way people are.  It’s not morally wrong.  It just is.  Ther…[Read more]

They may or may not be outliers.  I can understand people making a fuss about things.  But it depends how they do it.  These outliers love trouble.  Sometimes it just turns off the people they’re presumably hoping to convert.

Simon it seems to me that you are being as ridiculously over-outraged over the very over-outrage you are criticising.

Kristina wrote:

And if even now you’re characterizing wokeness as witch-burners, well, I’m going to go out on a limb and say surely you have lost your perspective.

You’ve educated me about your perspective as a trans woman, which I appreciate, and given me a glimpse into your “woke world”, which I also appreciate.  But you haven’t entirely conv…[Read more]

Davis! Ketchup on hotdogs ! Your kind has no place in my world. Better not come around here. So Disgusting.

Joey 10:2

“thou shall take only mustard on the hotdog or may 10,000 wild boar trample the traitor.”

If somebody is screaming into somebody’s face, metaphorically or otherwise, purely because they disagree – nobody is going to take seriously what they have to say

No Simon. I would say that decades of inaction (nobody caring to change harmful oppressive cultural norms) and then people getting loud bringing about actually change would show that you…[Read more]

Kristina wrote:

Are you now entertaining bullshit to patronize them, or have you come around to the realization that hey, it’s not all bullshit?

That’s a reasonable question.  I was anti-racist, anti-sexist, pro-LBGT+ etc. before, but I wasn’t familiar with some of the newer manifestations of these.  These newer manifestations (some of them) too…[Read more]

Kristina wrote:

Are you now saying you were being bullied?

No, I’m saying I’ve seen it happen as a persistent activism style.

I am asking why you used that as some sort of excuse to write off the portions that weren’t bullshit.

If somebody is screaming into somebody’s face, metaphorically or otherwise, purely because they disagree – nobody is g…[Read more]

And yet, it seems to indicate a wider culture of self-righteous rudeness and incivility as a response to disagreement.

It’s a pity you continue to feel this way.

Bloody Hell, Kristina!  What a wonderful surprise!  I’ve missed your thoughtful posts – nobody ever posted quite like you.  It no longer surprises me how much I’ve enjoyed reading your input on this thread. Still delighted, but not as surprised.

Welcome home. I’m so happy to hear from you 🙂

@kristinaf Hi and welcome to AZ.

I read your long post twice. I found it incredibly well informed and thoughtful. It’s good to be here at AZ where people don’t care about whether you are non binary or not, your sexual orientation or your skin color. Here, we are all black font on white screen (unless you’ve got some super clever formatting skill…[Read more]

I accept that I probably have a skewed view of woke activism, in favour of the unfavourable.

Kristina wrote:

There is something to be said for marketing to conversion, I suppose. Some behaviours are more likely to engage people than others. It all depends on what your end goal is and what resources you have available.

Yes Kristina – this.  I…[Read more]

Davis wrote:

You’re outraged by a few outraged nuts.

Maybe you’re right.  And yet, it seems to indicate a wider culture of self-righteous rudeness and incivility as a response to disagreement.

Kristina wrote:

Why would you dismiss all that because some people put you off?

Because bullshit offends me.  It took me a while to get over my emotional reaction to it.  Now that I have got past the bullshit, I am more receptive to woke ideas.  Whose fault is all that?  Do activists not have a responsibility to model ideal behaviour?

Ivy wrote:

The Hallelujah diet seems like a hall of a diet…same as the raw vegan diet. Why is that considered woo?

It sounds a bit cranky to me.  I used to study yoga, and the yoga teacher was 90+, and he was too old to digest raw food.  We evolved to cook our food, in my opinion.

A plant-based diet – mostly plants – is sensible I have heard.