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@Robert

Excellent example of the tu quoque fallacy. (That’s the one where you say essentially, “Ignore his arguments. He has special interests.”) I recognize you did examine some of his arguments but in the end you seem to be invoking tu quoque.

So, what about the other two videos on the Cochrane Library metastudy showing masks outside…[Read more]

@Robert

The bulk of your post is an ad hominem character assassination. You imply Dr. Makary unqualified to have an opinion on the matter because he’s a gastroenterologist. In fact, he “teaches public health policy as Professor of Surgery and Public Health at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.”

That he’s a sometime commentator…[Read more]

@Robert

Unless I grossly misunderstand the reasons Dr. Campbell has changed his mind (and also apologized for being a mask proponent till now), any difference a mask makes one way or the other would be within the margin for error anyway when it comes to virus-sized bugs, hardly worth the damage they have caused.

AND  considering the damage,…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:

@robert Exactly WHEN do you expect people to stsrt wearing masks properly, anyway? I thought so. So I think we need to do our assessment of whether masks work from there.

I wear mine properly. That is what really matters to me. It’s not that hard. In fact, I test the fit with incense. I literally cannot smell a burning patchouli…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:

@robert Exactly WHEN do you expect people to stsrt wearing masks properly, anyway? I thought so. So I think we need to do our assessment of whether masks work from there.

Unseen wrote:

It turns out that masks do diddly-squat.

That last statement is the kind that kills gullible people, and enables disease to spread. I want to cover…[Read more]

@Robert

Exactly WHEN do you expect people to stsrt wearing masks properly, anyway? I thought so. So I think we need to do our assessment of whether masks work from there.

_Robert_ wrote:

You made a statement that Everything I know about Covid is wrong and you have shown me that nothing that I know about covid is wrong.

My very first take on that topic title was “clickbait”, and not necessarily a true representation of Unseen’s fleshed out opinion. Superlative. But with possibly good data in the discussion, anyway.…[Read more]

@Robert

So, now I’m an agent of Qanon in addition to Moscow(?).

Well, if throwing Europe (not allies so much as useful pawns on America’s international chessboard) helps to block Putin and opens up a new market, so much the better, right.

Now, Hersh didn’t prove the U.S. did it, but Woodward and Bernstein didn’t prove that Nixon’s reelection…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:

@robert Regarding Sachs’s softness on China and Russia, he is a great believer in resolving conflicts through negotiation and compromise. However, it’s hard to bring someone to the table when you are tongue lashing them and engaging in unrelated accusations. WW3 defines the stakes. And, BTW, not to be too whataboutist about it, but…

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@Robert

Regarding Sachs’s softness on China and Russia, he is a great believer in resolving conflicts through negotiation and compromise. However, it’s hard to bring someone to the table when you are tongue lashing them and engaging in unrelated accusations. WW3 defines the stakes.

And, BTW, not to be too whataboutist about it, but are we,…[Read more]

@Robert

If you go to Sachs’s Wikipedia page, and scroll down to “Awards and Honors,” you’ll see it begins with…

In 2004 and 2005, Sachs was named one of the 100 Most Influential People in the World by Time. He was also named one of the “500 Most Influential People in the Field of Foreign Policy” by the World Affairs Councils of America.

In…[Read more]

@Robert

More Putin propaganda. This time renowned economist Jeffrey Sachs explains how he knew immediately it had to be the U.S. who did it. He doesn’t use the words, but basically if you apply Occam’s Razor you almost have to arrive at the conclusion the U.S. did it.

While few countries do, both the U.S. and Russia have the means to sabotage…[Read more]

@Robert

I think you’ve been derailed by taking my admittedly clickbaitish subject line more seriously than intended or warranted.

My point, based on the Cochrane Library study isn’t really that masks don’t work it’s that the evidence they are effective in practice isn’t there.

“In practice” is crucial. Even if masks can work, most ordinary…[Read more]

@Robert

The White House denies Hersh’s allegations, as expected, and their motivation is twofold. First, it could damage relations with European allies who are suffering a very tough winter in terms of heating and the cascading problems in supply chains resulting from a severe shortage of natural gas.

Second, and equally if not more serious, to…[Read more]

Wow, you guys have really degenerated quite a bit, eh?  And here I thought atheists were supposed to be rational sorts.

Kudos to @Robert for trying, but trying to reason with anti-mask, anti-vax, anti-public health folks who’ve been sucking down Russian propaganda is just a never-ending Gish Gallop.   One is left trying to explain all of mi…[Read more]

@Robert

Dr. Campbell is hardly “just a nurse.” He’s a qualified medical pro at the doctorate level who is clearly well enough educated to read and understand academic articles in the medical arena. Besides, where is this low opinion of nurses coming from?

Poor countries aside, Campbell has discussed excess deaths in first world countries (the UK…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:

@robert There’s little comparison between a screening exam like a colonoscopy or a blood panel and someone whose life is hanging on by a thread while they wish and hope a kidney, liver, or heart will become available before the cascade of organ failures that will end their life begins.

That’s true of course, yet in so many of t…[Read more]

@Robert

There’s little comparison between a screening exam like a colonoscopy or a blood panel and someone whose life is hanging on by a thread while they wish and hope a kidney, liver, or heart will become available before the cascade of organ failures that will end their life begins.

@Robert

Gabbard is on Fox because the mainstream media (other than Fox) exists to serve the Democratic Party, which has people who hate her ever since she nominated Bernie Sanders at a Democratic Party convention. I don’t agree with her on everything, but she’s right about many things.

Dore and Qanan? Document that, please. I know what Qanon…[Read more]