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Please take this up in PMs.  Or don’t.  But not here.

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Stop it

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Belle, that’s a hunch. What would be the purpose for a divine being to inform you that you were going to meet your biological relatives if you were going to meet them anyway?

Apparently we forget our hunches that don’t eventuate in a tangible way, and only recall those that had some kind of confirmation event soon after.

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Thanks, Reg!

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@Belle. How do you know the voice isn’t the Devil?

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Santas gifts are tangible.

On a side note, I was over in Cologne (Germany) one December and discovered that their version of St Nicholas is a very different kind of Santa – he has a sidekick called Black Peter too.  If you’ve been a good little boy/girl, St Nicholas gives you the normal gift type of reward, but if you’ve been a bad little boy/girl, Black Peter beats you with the heavy cudgel he carries.  The German client told me that for years he was terrified of the 9th December – leading me to guess he wasn’t always a good little boy!

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@Reg. Oh dear

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This is Plan A?

If the Trump administration sticks to power politics, the best of the bad options might be to attack at the earliest stage, before North Korea acquires a fully deliverable nuclear capacity.

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If you are holding out for impeachment, perhaps you should scan over this easy-to-read snippet on the matter of presidential impeachment…  https://www.thoughtco.com/presidents-who-were-impeached-3368130.

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So Plan B is hope?

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I don’t think there’s ever been an impeachment that resulted in the departure of a sitting President.  Nixon resigned before he could be impeached.

To impeach, you need a significant majority of congress to unite.  This is practically impossible at present with the Republican majority.  If the democrats turn that around in 2018, then there is a small possibility impeachment might proceed.  Until then, and in the light of the above, calling for impeachment is as likely to be beneficial as calling to Zeus to strike Trump with a thunderbolt.

Whats Plan B?

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Yay!  Thanks Reg!!!

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I call every religious ‘leader’ “Preacher man” after Aretha Franklin’s magnificent song – some of them don’t seem to like it, but hey, it’s kind of accurate 🙂

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The reason women can have abortions was laid out in Roe v Wade in the Supreme Court in 1973 – it has to do with autonomy over ones own body.  It has nothing to do with rape – rape was cited as an extreme circumstance wherein those people who object to a woman having an abortion might find some grey area to agree.  I still find it astonishing that America has such an issue with OTHER PEOPLE having abortions.

The example Belle cited, of a woman secretly not taking her contraceptive pill in order to get pregnant agains her partners wishes, is probably the closest parallel to the case you are describing – IVF has just modernized the activity.

Once the man handed his sperm over to the IVF bank, with a designate purpose, he pretty much lost control over it.  Yes sure there was fraud, but you can’t send the baby back to the sperm bank – it exists.  I think the woman acted in an illegal and wrongful way, and it’s a tough price that would be laid on the father regarding child support, but what alternative is there?  You know the state is never going to offer to pay, so…. what are you suggesting?  Who finances the child?

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David this topic appears to have moved away from a generic ‘moral question’ and is now becoming detailed to a level that conflicts with philosophical debate.  Are we now discussing an actual situation?  Yours?

What do you think should happen?  Should the baby grow up knowing its father rejected it?  What is YOUR perspective on how this should pan out?

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