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_Robert_ wrote:

Right. I will attribute this to technical inexperience. Not the same thing as artificial stupidity, which is what you are talking about. You seem to think engineers are going to allow infinite positive feedback loops. It’s engineering 101 and Musk is fucking with you.

Speaking of loops, why would a hyperintelligent AI feel a n…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:

Feel…like a machine? What does that even mean? I can program a machine to make it appear to feel what ever I want it to. If I want a robot that appears to feel sad or depressed all day, no problem. If I want a small degree of randomness in it’s selection of programmed actions and response sequences, no problem. If I want it to tak…

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We might try to give AI human values but ultimately, unless it’s some sort of hoax, it will feel, if it has feelings at all, like a machine, not like a human being. And it will act accordingly.

@TheEncogitationer:

In laying out all the things a pleasure robot could do, consider that robots could replace us just about everywhere save, perhaps, in the arts. But I’m not sure that a hyperintelligent AI would have much use for the arts. What is Bleak House, Macbeth, Blade Runner, or a Gauguin painting to an AI?

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

How to prevent AI from taking over the world.

From the article:

The best and most direct way to control AI is to ensure that its values are our values. By building human values into AI, we ensure that everything an AI does meets with our approval. But this is not simple. The so-called “Value Alignment Problem” – how…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:

You got this conspiracy doomsday/fear stuff down. You could drop that sentence ‘as is’ after a any Trumpist/Qanon rant just fine. I still prefer evidence over conjecture and analysis over fear.

Half the world is on fire, record temperatures every year, intensity and number of hurricanes are raging, ice caps are melting, sea lev…

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@Davis We have handed over many essential systems to technology so that they pretty much run on computer-managed autopilot. Electrical grids, water systems, sewage systems, a lot of air traffic control is computer-assisted. You can probably think of even more. There’s a lot of damage they can do “bolted to the floor.”

_Robert_ wrote:

I know there  a lot of Elon Muskovites these days and I even own and play a Kurzweil branded electronic keyboard. I just don’t share their fear about some sci-fi tripping point.

You just nailed why they say the revolution will succeed: You will succumb to it willingly.

Possibly to help dig our way out of the singularity hole…

What about the idea of lifelike robotic companions or even sex partners?

As for sex partners, very effective hardware already exists (vibrators, male masturbators) put it in a very lifelike body built to our personal specifications, they could improve on human partners in some ways…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:

Not much to go on here, fairly silly sequence of events…who is ‘buying’ all of these products in this ‘market-less’ world that all these (unowned?) robots are making? Out of work workers? The 0.1% super-wealthy? Other robots?

I don’t see electro-mechanical machines coming close to the current state of the art bio-mechani…

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TheEncogitationer wrote:

Fellow Unbelievers, Preaching, practicing and programing a little reciprocity and mutual regard for self-interest with our new AI neighbors would be the best way to approach this issue. Thomas Paine observed that once people know the truth, you can’t make them un-know it. Likewise, once we build a technology based on t…

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_Robert_ wrote:

Displacement of workers because of efficient technology is nothing new. To partake in the gains from efficient car or phone production one must own shares in those companies, otherwise you are simply not part of the wealth distribution. It’s kind of a vicious circle because there is a barrier to getting started in investment and I…

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_Robert_ wrote:

Self-modifying code based on data analysis is nothing new, back when you had to be an EE to program embedded systems we did that all the time to extend hardware capabilities. AI regardless of network interconnectivity can only ultimately interact with the physical world through transducers, sensors, antennas, motors, relays,…

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_Robert_ wrote:

Oh is that all? That would involve corrective software updates. Or did we program the machines to decide when they feel like updating with baseline code they are writing? Honestly the only way I see all that happening is with intentional malware or negligent design . There are ways of avoiding some hostile takeover by machines as…

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_Robert_ wrote:

Is it the AI in itself that is so worrisome or would it just be over-reliance and a possible loss of mental exercise and intellect by large population segments? Looking at the current political situation, I think we are already there. I can see that getting worse as we continue commercialization of AI. As far as machines becoming…

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TheEncogitationer wrote:

That means sapient AIs have all the rights to Life, Liberty, Property, and Pursuit of Happiness as human beings and all the same moral and legal responsibilities of human beings as well.  And sapient AI expressions and actions are to be judged by the same standards as humans too.  Play well with all who play nice, play H…

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If other methods fail, masturbate. An orgasm releases a hormone that relaxes one and makes one sleepy. Especially if you are male. Just ask any woman frustrated by her male partner’s tendency to roll over and go to sleep after sex.

If that doesn’t work, at least you experienced something pleasant for a while.

@TheEncogitationer

Caravaggio was a murderer, Socrates hated democracy, and Mel Gibson is a big schmuck, but they are/were all geniuses (if you doubt Gibson, you probably haven’t seen or truly appreciated Apocalypto).

I get your dislike for Musk, who isn’t alone in giving his kids bizarre names (Moon Unit 2 and Dweezil Zappa?), but thanks for…[Read more]