Unseen

Simon Paynton wrote:

In this case, then 1) cars / earthquakes / fires etc. are not a part of the living world, they are alien and external to it because they are not alive, and living things only possess limited control over physical phenomena and circumstances; 2) good and evil, or at least, pro- and anti-social behaviour, are themselves…

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Jody Lee wrote:

@everyone (because I’m not sure anymore who is debating what) So because I’m atheist, I can’t use the word ‘spiritual’ to describe something that doesn’t relate to a God?

You can use it, but the only way to avoid having to defend is not to use it here. This is what we do here. We discuss and challenge people’s notions and the lan…[Read more]

Ivy wrote:

I think you are connected to it you just don’t recognize or acknowledge it for what it is. You call it something else.

I always love (resent) it when people claim to know me better than I know myself.

But let’s turn things around. If there IS a God/Great Spirit, why does he let children get hit by cars or abused by cruel parents. W…[Read more]

Ivy wrote:

I do think that we ALL know deep down that we are connected to “God”/”The Great Sprit” whatever you want to call “it/him/her.”

You don’t speak for me.

Jody Lee wrote:

“The origin of “spiritual” is the Latin word spiritus meaning breath. Breathing, an essential element of human life, thus informs that spirituality has something to do with an essence of living.”

Spirituality=breathing. That is your working definition now?

Simon Paynton wrote:

@davis – we can give you definitions til we’re blue in the face, but you will probably continue to ignore them.  For example: The Spiritual Soldier

From that article: “I relaxed my opposition to spirituality after reading George Vallaint’s (2008) “Spiritual evolution.” I summarized his position as that it is the exper…[Read more]

Jody Lee wrote:

That’s a deep connection to something bigger. To me that’s spiritual.

To me, I think you’re referring to what I’d call “wonder.”

_Robert_ wrote:

The idea that we are simply electro-chemical machines made of meat doesn’t sit well with most. There has to be more, right? Billions of living creatures have come and gone with no trace of their existence or at best, barely a trace. Some diluted chromosomes if they managed to have offspring. Is that it? To reproduce? Is that the m…

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I recognize I’m part of something far far bigger than me, the Cosmos, and that that likely is also part of something far far bigger than itself, which we call the multiverse. And who knows if that might not itself be part of some larger something. All this does is make me realize how insignificant I am and maybe how insignificant the Cosmos is.…[Read more]

Ivy wrote:

Translation: Any word with the word spirit makes atheists uncomfortable, can you please change to accommodate? So typical

I’m not squirming in discomfort. What in the world about the notion of spirituality would make me feel discomfort?

You’re engaging in armchair psychology without a license.

Do you believe in ghosts or souls? Are…[Read more]