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				<title>PopeBeanie replied to the topic Science blinders, even on the smartest people in the forum Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/science-blinders-even-on-the-smartest-people/#post-60479</link>
				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 12:56:05 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/science-blinders-even-on-the-smartest-people/#post-60470" rel="nofollow ugc">Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:</a><br />
benefits of getting the Shingles vaccine</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="https://www.uth.edu/news/story/risk-of-alzheimers-dementia-significantly-reduced-after-high-dose-influenza-vaccination-compared-to-the-standard-dose-study-finds#:~:text=The%20risk%20of%20Alzheimer's%20disease,were%20published%20today%20in%20Neurology." rel="noopener" rel="nofollow ugc">Ditto</a> for higher dose flu vaccine.</p>
<p>A podcast about that from Microbe.TV, This Week In Virology (TWIV) Episode #1313: <a href="https://www.microbe.tv/twiv/" rel="noopener" rel="nofollow ugc">Audio</a>; <a href="https://youtu.be/qkN9HNLynpo?t=1249" rel="noopener" rel="nofollow ugc">Video</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve listened to most TWIV audio episodes since Covid hit in 2020. Most of it goes deep and is over my head, so I listen to help me fall asleep&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-48481"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/science-blinders-even-on-the-smartest-people/#post-60479" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Science blinders, even on the smartest people in the forum Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 02:52:40 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reg:</p>
<p>The developing world would have a lot less child mortality if we could stop reverse-developing nations from recruiting and kidnapping children for combat.  Maybe FEMA&#8217;s Gregg Phillips could teleport Iran&#8217;s children safely away from the IRGC:</p>
<p>Iran accused of war crime for recruiting children; FEMA official claims he was teleported by&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-48480"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/science-blinders-even-on-the-smartest-people/#post-60477" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 22:23:33 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reg:</p>
<blockquote><p>There is a new study done on benefits of getting the Shingles vaccine. I will get it soon as I had chicken pox when I was young.</p></blockquote>
<p>Highly recommended.  I got my two shots a few years ago, since I had Chicken Pox as a kid.  The Shingles vaccine comes in a pair of shots spaced out over 2-6 months and you get to have fun saying the&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-48476"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/science-blinders-even-on-the-smartest-people/#post-60472" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Science blinders, even on the smartest people in the forum Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/science-blinders-even-on-the-smartest-people/#post-60471</link>
				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:55:40 +0000</pubDate>

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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:53:50 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The is a new <a href="https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2025/03/shingles-vaccination-dementia.html" rel="noopener" rel="nofollow ugc">study</a> done on benefits of getting the Shingles vaccine. I will get it soon as I had chicken pox when I was young.</p>
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				<title>TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Science blinders, even on the smartest people in the forum Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/science-blinders-even-on-the-smartest-people/#post-60469</link>
				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 17:21:38 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PopeBeanie:</p>
<blockquote><p>I get the connection you’re making, but really, is there more than just the name to discredit good science in a different discipline?</p>
<p>I’ll take as a win, the fact that we agree about Musk.</p></blockquote>
<p>I should be more clear:  I am all for vaccines as a life-saving technology.  I think they should be available over-the-counter in Epi-Pens, eve&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-48472"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/science-blinders-even-on-the-smartest-people/#post-60469" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 12:57:21 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the connection you&#8217;re making, but really, is there more than just the name to discredit good science in a different discipline?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take as a win, the fact that we agree about Musk.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 08:07:17 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PopeBeanie:</p>
<p>Musk is out of his depth on vaccines (and probably on rocketry too, judging from how he like to blow shit up on his laugh pads)&#8230;</p>
<p>But just gotta say, Germany isn&#8217;t helping it&#8217;s case by naming it&#8217;s vaccine regulator the Paul Ehrlich Institute, if this is the same one who wrote <em>The Population Bomb</em> which held that we humans  reached&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-48469"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/science-blinders-even-on-the-smartest-people/#post-60465" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 23:11:51 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Musk has blinders on like other groups he promotes on X who have trouble separating facts from conspiracy theories. I first realized this when he completely misunderstood and discounted how rapid Covid tests work, and what can cause false positives or negatives. He ranted against them, before many people learned how crucial they would become. Now&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-48466"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/science-blinders-even-on-the-smartest-people/" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Thank Gaia for GMOs! in the forum Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/thank-gaia-for-gmos/#post-60457</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 17:09:08 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PopeBeanie:</p>
<p>That should be Thank Gregor Mendel, Norman Borlaug, and Genentech for GMOs.  Gaia <em>née</em> Earth just unconsciously provided the raw materials.  </p>
<p>And the most important reason for thanks is The Green Revolution that saved a billion humans from starvation.  This helps people cope with reality without psychotropic drugs.</p>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 19:45:20 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(And thank Reg for &#8220;turning me on&#8221; to 404.)</p>
<p><a href="https://www.404media.co/scientists-create-plant-that-produces-ayahuasca-shrooms-and-toad-psychedelics-all-at-once/?ref=weekly-roundup-newsletter" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.404media.co/scientists-create-plant-that-produces-ayahuasca-shrooms-and-toad-psychedelics-all-at-once/?ref=weekly-roundup-newsletter</a></p>
<p>Source link in science.org:<br />
<a href="https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aeb3034?ref=404media.co" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aeb3034?ref=404media.co</a></p>
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				<title>Unseen replied to the topic Physics Girl is back!! in the forum Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/physics-girl-is-back/#post-60053</link>
				<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2026 17:58:59 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so glad she has recovered enough to post again. She was one of my favorites back when she was posting regularly.</p>
<p>It looks like the disease took its toll. One hopes she will bloom back into a full recovery in coming months.</p>
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				<title>TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Physics Girl is back!! in the forum Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/physics-girl-is-back/#post-60043</link>
				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2026 16:53:55 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PopeBeanie:</p>
<p>It would be kinda hard for Japanese tourists to carry a Super-Kamiokande while visiting Disney. &#x1f609;&#x1f601;</p>
<p>Seriously, that was a ton of new learning in 8 minutes.  They never taught in public school that light has different speeds going through different media. Not to mention that public schools teach little about subatomic particles other&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-48149"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/physics-girl-is-back/#post-60043" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2026 07:25:30 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She suffered from long covid sooo badly, for sooo long, I couldn&#8217;t believe she&#8217;d be so great again. Here she is, from bed, but excited, cogent, and a source of scientific knowledge and enthusiasm again! (I was tearing up.)</p>
<p><iframe loading="lazy" title="My first science video in 3 years" width="670" height="377" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/B3m3AMRlYfc?feature=oembed" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" referrerpolicy="strict-origin-when-cross-origin" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
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				<title>PopeBeanie replied to the topic Fairly Random Tidbits in the forum Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2025 03:22:11 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Clear evidence, in only 18 seconds, that free will does not exist.</strong><br />
Notice the delay in the subject&#8217;s brain&#8217;s response.</p>
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				<title>PopeBeanie replied to the topic Gain of Function research in the forum Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2025 04:11:54 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/gain-of-function-research/#post-58499" rel="nofollow ugc">TheEncogitationer wrote:</a><br />
Another thought on this: If they’re killed off fast enough, the bacteria aren’t around to evolve.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, absolutely. Just a side-note, elsewhere in that video they were also discussing how to terminate pathogens with a &#8220;cocktail&#8221; approach, which is applying more than one treatment at once in order to kill faster, lea&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-46778"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/gain-of-function-research/#post-58509" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Gain of Function research in the forum Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 15:29:09 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PopeBeanie,</p>
<p>Another thought on this: If they&#8217;re killed off fast enough, the bacteria aren&#8217;t around to evolve.</p>
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				<title>TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Gain of Function research in the forum Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/gain-of-function-research/#post-58496</link>
				<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 15:12:24 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PopeBeanie,</p>
<blockquote><p>I realized this while watching this awesome episode on bacteria phages, which are viruses that prey only on bacteria. I start the hour long episode more than halfway in, and it’s not important to watch any further than their discussion on gain of function:</p></blockquote>
<p>Wait&#8230;Don&#8217;t watch all of a video about a medical regimen that has to be c&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-46768"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/gain-of-function-research/#post-58496" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>PopeBeanie started the topic Gain of Function research in the forum Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.</title>
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				<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2025 07:09:42 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched a Matters Microbial episode on MicrobeTV, which for me, added an enlightening perspective on gain of function research.</p>
<p>Antibiotic over-prescriptions are already proven to be a dangerous way to cause pathogenic bacteria to evolve resistance to treatments. Some doctors still prescribe them for &#8220;just in case&#8221; scenarios, and patients&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-46767"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/science-the-kind-that-requires-evidence-and-reason/forum/topic/gain-of-function-research/" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>_Robert_ joined the group Knowledge</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 12:28:12 +0000</pubDate>

				
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				<title>Simon Paynton replied to the topic Mr. Gradgrind was wrong. in the forum Knowledge</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/groups/knowledge/forum/topic/mr-gradgrind-was-wrong/#post-56421</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 12:25:30 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/knowledge/forum/topic/mr-gradgrind-was-wrong/#post-56415" rel="nofollow ugc">Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:</a><br />
Your initial belief (before evidence) + new evidence = updated belief.</p></blockquote>
<p>That sounds very reasonable.</p>
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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/knowledge/forum/topic/mr-gradgrind-was-wrong/#post-56420" rel="nofollow ugc">Unseen wrote:</a><br />
It is not single axioms that strike me as obvious, it is a system in which consequences and premises give one another mutual support.” — Wittgenstein, On Certainty, sec. 141-42</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s good too.  If ther&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-44907"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/knowledge/forum/topic/mr-gradgrind-was-wrong/#post-56421" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 00:34:18 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When we first begin to believe anything, what we believe is not a single proposition, it is a whole system of propositions. (Light dawns gradually over the whole.) / It is not single axioms that strike me as obvious, it is a system in which consequences and premises give one another mutual support.&#8221; — Wittgenstein, On Certainty, sec. 141-42</p>
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				<title>Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Mr. Gradgrind was wrong. in the forum Knowledge</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2025 00:17:28 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wordle 1,346 3/6*</p>
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<p>Bayes in action!!</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2025 23:54:20 +0000</pubDate>

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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2025 23:51:46 +0000</pubDate>

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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2025 23:48:38 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a more detailed <a href="https://betterexplained.com/articles/an-intuitive-and-short-explanation-of-bayes-theorem/" rel="noopener noreferrer" rel="nofollow ugc">explanation</a> of Bayes Theory. Don&#8217;t be put off by the Math as the concept is more important if you are new to it.</p>
<p>I guess I should allow for the word &#8220;belief&#8221; and not just &#8220;understanding&#8221; as I think we all know the I don&#8217;t mean religious belief, i.e. belief that is not open to revision.</p>
<p>Another example:</p>
<p>Think of Bayes’ T&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-44901"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/knowledge/forum/topic/mr-gradgrind-was-wrong/#post-56415" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2025 23:46:52 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reg,</p>
<p>Just a few practical addendum for teaching these skills in learning and reasoning:</p>
<p>* Put the lessons in any and all possible media, electronic and hard copy.<br />
* Insist that anyone who teaches the lessons equally be able to exercise the lessons and they must not have any guarantee of tenure or sinecure.<br />
*. Don&#8217;t make the lessons compulsory;&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-44900"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/knowledge/forum/topic/mr-gradgrind-was-wrong/#post-56413" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2025 23:36:50 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Unseen &#8211; The point you make about Columbus can be used as a basic example of Bayes Theory.  If he had being given new objective information about the location then he could have updated his understanding of what he had discovered. It would have changed his reality.  That is the essence of how Bayes works. It is not &#8220;shattering a belief&#8221;. It is d&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-44898"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/knowledge/forum/topic/mr-gradgrind-was-wrong/#post-56411" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2025 22:53:45 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reg,</p>
<p>How humans learn and properly reason is a matter of fact.  So it&#8217;s not that Gradgrind was wrong,  It just that how to learn and reason should be the first fact he teaches </p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2025 21:35:13 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where to fit this in, but&#8230;</p>
<p>Christopher Columbus did not actually discover America because he maintained until his death that he had reached some portion of Asia. Doubts were emerging but it was Amerigo Vespucci who fully realized that the Americas were truly something else, calling them a &#8220;new world.&#8221;</p>
<p>The point: You can only claim&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-44896"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/knowledge/forum/topic/mr-gradgrind-was-wrong/#post-56409" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Simon Paynton replied to the topic Mr. Gradgrind was wrong. in the forum Knowledge</title>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2025 20:55:22 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought that Bayesian reasoning was about extrapolating &#8220;what is&#8221; to &#8220;what might be&#8221;, thereby limiting new ideas.</p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2025 20:27:58 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Simon, Bayesian thinking is all about checking out new ideas. We don&#8217;t want kids to hold beliefs, we want them to have &#8220;understandings&#8221;. Then when a new idea (information) comes along, they will have the skills to reason through it and adapt their understanding accordingly.</p>
<p>Bayesian reasoning, logic, and fallacy recognition would do more&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-44894"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/knowledge/forum/topic/mr-gradgrind-was-wrong/#post-56406" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2025 20:08:55 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that&#8217;s brilliant Reg.  I&#8217;m not sure about Bayesian thinking though &#8211; it seems to repackage &#8220;what&#8217;s possible&#8221; as &#8220;based on what&#8217;s already the case&#8221; &#8211; not allowing in new ideas.</p>
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									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is about some new things learned from the Jan 2022 <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Hunga_Tonga%E2%80%93Hunga_Ha%CA%BBapai_eruption_and_tsunami" rel="noopener noreferrer" rel="nofollow ugc">Tonga eruption</a>.</p>
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