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  • #60462
    PopeBeanie
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    Musk has blinders on like other groups he promotes on X who have trouble separating facts from conspiracy theories. I first realized this when he completely misunderstood and discounted how rapid Covid tests work, and what can cause false positives or negatives. He ranted against them, before many people learned how crucial they would become. Now they even detect multiple viruses in one kit. True, not 100% accurate, but still more useful than very expensive tests, as they’re the most accurate test for determining when infected people are most likely able to spread their infection to others.

    One clue to detecting misinformation, e.g. false beliefs about vaccines, is when vax deniers rarely cite evidence that includes statistics on illneses and deaths caused when unvaxxed people catch and spread Covid. Even when a million people died from it, and NYC had to use refrigerator trucks to hold dead bodies. Plus, Long Covid can last months, or even years, sometimes with horrible debilitation(s) and pain. Again, mostly preventable with vaxes, as per recent research.

    Today (and probably for years?), Musk has been undermining people’s understanding of Covid vaccines.

    Musk says 60k people in Germany have died from Covid vaccine.
    https://open.substack.com/pub/newsguardtech/p/musk-gives-a-50-million-view-boost?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

    Thanks again to Reg for providing another useful source of information (where the article above came from): “A newsletter about how false claims spread—and who’s behind them.”
    https://www.newsguardrealitycheck.com/

    And here’s a realible source of data, recent research on human diseases and their prevention, which CDC was better known for reliable data (around the world) before-RFK days. I get their daily newsletter, and they’ve produced a weekly podcast for years since Covid. Includes stories on all common, infectious diseases.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/

    #60465
    TheEncogitationer
    Participant

    PopeBeanie:

    Musk is out of his depth on vaccines (and probably on rocketry too, judging from how he like to blow shit up on his launch pads)…

    But just gotta say, Germany isn’t helping it’s case by naming it’s vaccine regulator the Paul Ehrlich Institute, if this is the same one who wrote The Population Bomb which held that we humans reached beyond Earth’s carrying capacity when the population reached 4.5 billion. Doesn’t sound like Paul Ehrlich would want more life-saving vaccines.

    Here is one of his many speeches on overpopulation and depletion of resources. A real life of the block party!:

    • This reply was modified 1 month ago by TheEncogitationer. Reason: I misspelled "launch pads" as "laugh pads.". How Freudianof me to speak of Musk this way
    #60467
    PopeBeanie
    Moderator

    I get the connection you’re making, but really, is there more than just the name of institutions that will discredit good science in a different discipline?

    I’ll take as a win, the fact that we agree about Musk.

    #60469
    TheEncogitationer
    Participant

    PopeBeanie:

    I get the connection you’re making, but really, is there more than just the name to discredit good science in a different discipline?

    I’ll take as a win, the fact that we agree about Musk.

    I should be more clear: I am all for vaccines as a life-saving technology. I think they should be available over-the-counter in Epi-Pens, even shipped to your door by your pharmacist when your vaccine schedule says it’s time for a boost.

    What I’m saying is that Paul Ehrlich was no supporter of evidence-based, life-saving, human-flourishing science.

    Paul Ehrlich was a harbinger of hopeless misanthropic doom worthy of a place next to Hal Lindsey and every other street corner ranter with a “The-End-Is-Near” sandwich board.

    Paul Ehrlich persisted in his gospel of overpopulation and global scarcity against all evidence…

    even when The Green Revolution lifted a billion humans out of starvation…

    even when he lost a famous public bet with Economist Julian Simon on rising prices of resources…

    even when Earth’s population nearly doubled in the 68 years since he and his wife wrote The Population Bomb, with no apocalyptic after-taste!

    And even when consistently proven wrong, Paul Ehrlich persisted in supporting and inspiring totalitarian mandatory Zero Population Growth family size limits, including mandatory sterilization and mandatory abortions in Red China, India, and Indonesia.

    And despite all this doom-mongering, Paul and Anne Ehrlich had one child, a daughter Anne, themselves. Poor girl. Crumb-crunchers for we, but not for thee.

    Only recently did Paul Ehrlich practice what he preached for everyone else and stopped taking up resources and space, as told in his obituary.

    #60470

    There is a new study done on benefits of getting the Shingles vaccine. I will get it soon as I had chicken pox when I was young.

    #60471

    #60472
    TheEncogitationer
    Participant

    Reg:

    There is a new study done on benefits of getting the Shingles vaccine. I will get it soon as I had chicken pox when I was young.

    Highly recommended. I got my two shots a few years ago, since I had Chicken Pox as a kid. The Shingles vaccine comes in a pair of shots spaced out over 2-6 months and you get to have fun saying the tongue-twister “second Shingles shot.” 😋

    I say “Highly Recommended” because a friend of my Grandfather got the Shingles and it spread into his lungs. He couldn’t breathe or speak without struggle and eventually couldn’t hold down solid food well. He then tried to relieve his suffering with a shotgun, unsuccessfully. He died of his self-harm in a rest home shortly thereafter.

    RFK Jr. and MAHA can’t tell me a damn thing against vaccines that I will listen to!

    #60477
    TheEncogitationer
    Participant

    Reg:

    The developing world would have a lot less child mortality if we could stop reverse-developing regimes from recruiting and kidnapping children for combat. Maybe FEMA’s Gregg Phillips could teleport Iran’s children safely away from the IRGC:

    Iran accused of war crime for recruiting children; FEMA official claims he was teleported by God
    https://san.com/cc/iran-accused-of-war-crime-for-recruiting-children-fema-official-claims-he-was-teleported-by-god/

    #60479
    PopeBeanie
    Moderator

    benefits of getting the Shingles vaccine

    Ditto for high dose flu vaccine.

    Microbe.TV, This Week In Virology (TWIV)
    Episode #1313: Audio

    Episode #1313 Video:

    I’ve listened to most TWIV audio episodes since Covid hit us in 2020. Most of it goes deep and is over my head, so I listen to help me fall asleep at bed time, but I’ve still learned a lot.

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