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Kyrani Eade
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Simon Paynton wrote:

@KyraniEade – “there is no objective, scientific evidence for God.” “there is God. Both spiritual nature and God are self-evident.” – are you saying that a subjective experience is evidence of objective reality? A lot of people who have had spiritual awakenings say that they feel “everything is consciousness”, “everything is one”, “everything is connected” etc. Are you saying that being a conscious being, is spiritual?

God and spiritual nature are not objective reality because spiritual nature is conscious being and it’s chief quality is consciousness. Consciousness is of the same essence/ likeness as God, the Supreme Being.

Even in deep meditation (Samadhi), which is a far lesser state than enlightenment, both subject and object disappear. There is no experiencer nor objected experienced, only experiencing remains. So only consciousness remains. There is a feeling that everything is consciousness and everything is connected but I don’t agree that everything is one, in the sense that all conscious beings are one.

There is Universal (non-local ) consciousness but there is also individual (local ) consciousness.

However your question really goes further because there is an objective, external reality and subjective experience, as in ordinary, everyday life, is evidence of that but, we need to see the bigger picture.

Firstly, I do not believe that there is any such thing as “human mind”. There is only the One Mind or the Mind of the Supreme Being. Evidence: if you enter a meditative state of no thoughts, where is mind? There is none.

Secondly ideas are not in business for themselves. There needs to be a conscious being, agency, to call forth ideas from the Mind or perceive an idea called forth by some other related conscious being and presented to you in Mind (telepathy.. dare I mention the word!).

Thirdly, if there was only a material / physical reality out there and we were only meat robots then we would not be able to make sense of the reality in which we incarnate, let alone experience and interact in complex ways.

The fact that we have a subjective experience, means that we are aware of / perceive through the senses (also through direct mental means, e.g., remote viewing), which require consciousness, but we go further because we are able to understand meaning and make sense of what we experience.

So the reality we experience in everyday life, is a Creation (in religious terms) or a simulation/ hologram (in terms of physics). This means that matter is really information. I see it as information consciously upheld in the One Mind by the Supreme Being. This means then that there is information and the rules that govern that information (including meaning) and we as conscious beings must be able to perceive this information/rules/meaning or let’s say “behind the scenes activity” in order to arrive at a subjective experience. Sensory input is not enough.

So subjective experience, which is complex, is evidence of an external, objective reality in which we all participate.