Is it time to bring back lobotomies?

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Strega,

Good question. On government-owned roads, driving is a privilege (though strangely they don’t enforce traffic laws on bicyclists who run stop signs, weave in and out of traffic, get in driver’s blind spots, and Eco-Wacko bicyclists like Critical Mass who do this in swarms in city traffic and threaten motorists with bike chains and bike locks.)

But driving on your own real estate, such as done by dirt track racers or on large farms or estates, no licence is required.

[UnseenParticipant]

@Enco

I’m a little bit lost as to what “serial murders” you are referring to. And are you seriously arguing that since there’s no shortage of ways to kill people, that’s an excuse not to act on a very common way? Serial murders with guns are very hard to accomplish. The perps are usually quickly apprehended after the first episode. Mass killings, on the other hand, can be a day’s work using firearms.

Does your post belong under another topic? I don’t see how it belongs in this thread.

[UnseenParticipant]

@Enco

As a former bicyclist who used bikes as my primary form of transportation for about 20 years, I must say that most traffic laws are obviously written to control people driving around large steel killing machines and make little or no sense applied to bikes. Just as most abortion laws are written by often middle-aged or elderly men, traffic laws tend to be written by car drivers for the drivers of cars and trucks and they lazily don’t make obvious exceptions for bicyclists.

Here’s my idea for a wise traffic law for bikes. It’s quite simple: Bicyclists must not do anything placing other motorists or bicyclists in danger, and if through their own poor judgment, something bad happens to them, it’s on them.

I have no problem with even cars and trucks not not having to come to a full stop at an intersection offering a clear view in both directions and if entering or crossing would not even have an oncoming driver thinking of braking. Entering such intersections safely is far easier for a bicyclist and forcing the bike to come to a full stop in every single situation is just stupid. I mean, consider the bicyclist navigating through a residential area peppered with stop signs but nearly zero actual traffic. Ugh!

I drove before I moved to bikes, so I understand the frustration of seeing bikes able to take advantage of opportunities unavailable to a larger vehicle such as weaving or using sidewalks, but drivers do after all have the benefit of sitting on a cushy seat while basking in an air conditioned or heated comfort zone along with the option to join the bike riders they seem to envy so much. You can get a useful commuter bicycle for well under $500 new and there are lots of used bikes out there costing very little at all.

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[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Unseen,

@Enco

I’m a little bit lost as to what “serial murders” you are referring to. And are you seriously arguing that since there’s no shortage of ways to kill people, that’s an excuse not to act on a very common way? Serial murders with guns are very hard to accomplish. The perps are usually quickly apprehended after the first episode. Mass killings, on the other hand, can be a day’s work using firearms.

Does your post belong under another topic? I don’t see how it belongs in this thread.

You were tying in animal cruelty with moving on to murder humans, Robert brought up gun control, and my post was addressing and tying it all together.

On the flip side, sentiment for animals does not necessarily translate to respect for humans. The two nations that successfully banned vivisection were Apartheid South Africa and Nazi Germany.

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