Richard Dawkins Takes on The Wokester Creationists in Kiwi-Land!

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    TheEncogitationer
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    Fellow Unbelievers,

    Why I’m Sticking Up for Science
    by
    Richard Dawkins
    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-im-sticking-up-for-science/

    #47231

    Autumn
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    While I am highly unlikely to ever advocate for teaching religion in a science classroom (I can’t think of a single situation where I’d support it), that article is incoherent trash. I have no real reason to take Dawkins’ characterization at face value and cannot for the life of me figure out what the fuck J.K Rowling has to do with it.

    I can’t find a specific policy about this. What I can find is a green paper connected to proposed policy development. I’ve only been able to skim. Not sure when I will have time to read it properly:

    https://www.mbie.govt.nz/dmsdocument/17637-future-pathways-green-paper

     

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    TheEncogitationer
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    Autumn,

    Meh. I guess try as he might, Bertie Bott’s Beans don’t taste good to everyone and don’t have 100 percent market share.

    But science and it’s conclusions work the same Down Under and in Pommie-Land and their practice and benefits should be open to Maori and Non-Maori alike without being crowded out by equal time for mythical tribal narratives that belong in Literature class.

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    Autumn
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    But science and it’s conclusions work the same Down Under and in Pommie-Land and their practice and benefits should be open to Maori and Non-Maori alike…

    That seems to be the aim of the green paper I linked.

    …without being crowded out by equal time for mythical tribal narratives that belong in Literature class.

    It’s not clear that’s what is actually happening. The paper doesn’t discuss integrating mythology with science per se. Mātauranga Māori seems to be a very broad concept with some facets that integrate well with scientific method. I have no clue what the practical implications are here, and Dawkins doesn’t link to any specific policy, practice, or pedagogy that clarifies. He could be entirely talking out his ass (and it’s not like it would be the first time).

    Maybe this policy shift should raise some concerns. Maybe it shouldn’t. Responsible people tend to get curious rather than dismissive in these situations, unless they are already well-versed with the subject matter at hand.

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