Who will control the Strait of Hormuz?

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    Belle Rose
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    I was listening to the diary of a CEO podcast, with Professor Robert Pape, and he explained the conflict so beautifully in a way I could really understand. It’s got me really thinking about what is going to happen next. It also sheds light on why Trump seems to be trying to come after Chaco Canyon in New Mexico (for oil of course). I’m wondering what everybody else thinks is going to happen from here? Place your bets! Let’s see who is right!

     

    #61460
    jakelafort
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    If the USA hopes to control it best way is to cause a change of governance. Iran stopped attacking Israel probably because it was killing their leaders so in spite of lip service to loving death more than Israelis love life and the great virgin reward in the sky i think the leaders are actually frightened. So continuing to assasinate their leaders might be part of the solution.

    Economic pressure that causes enough despair to risk being executed AGAIN along with Kurd insurgencies could help to turn the Iranian army on the IRGC. (Similar to American Indians who seldom joined forces to fight the Whites so it is with Kurds although i have read that they’ve made strides towards coalescing against common enemy.) Internal combustion is possible. The seeds of discontent are in place. USA & Israel can supply intelligence, weapons, and air support.

    USA can continue with a blockade. That could economically choke the head of the snake. They are about oil oil and oye oye oye oil. Also i have read something about OPEC countries contemplating alternative routes. That happens and if it is utilized to good advantage Hormuz becomes a nonmotherfuckingfactor.

    Pretty clear Trump has been played like a drum. All of the tactics have accomplished something militarily but the ideology is intact and probably cemented. The tactics he has employed as a negotiator are such a joke. Sure, the military assets of Iran are greatly degraded. But i guess Iran has adapted in getting cheaper and more effective drones.

    Thus USA has to ignominiously capitulate or change tactics. Fomenting internal revolution is as aforementioned a possibility. Economic pressure on the leaders is probably more important than on the populace. Israel has shit all over the proxies of Iran although i have read Iran is trying to smuggle weapons through Syria. Bottom line i don’t think Israel is withdrawing from Lebanon because Lebanon can not or will not disarm Hezbollah. Similarly I don’t see Israel withdrawing from Gaza unless Hamas is wiped out or disarmed. Either way the ideology of the Islamic Freak Republic aint gonna stop their jihad against little and big Satan unless they are stopped. Present course is full steam ahead and futility.

    Ok so what is gonna happen? Probably USA tails between legs abandons ship. Inevitably Iran will try to build a nuke and send Jews to kingdom Cum. Israeli intelligence will be informed of their plans and assasinate the cultists and blow up what they can in terms of nuclear weaponry and the stuff to make nucs. That is all folks…

    #61461
    Belle Rose
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    Jake, did you hear about the fact that they have a shit ton of drones? …and it may not seem like a lot but it’s enough to do enough damage to get the job done. It was also interesting to hear him talk about the fact that President Trump, his dumbass, thought he was just doing a business deal, but he essentially gave Iran all of this power, and then immediately violated his own agreement, dumbass. It was a really interesting podcast, worth a listen for sure lol. 😂 he was talking about how this war is now similar to the Vietnam war, and it’s going to destroy Trump‘s legacy, he’s kind of fucked no matter what. But you know what happens every time war breaks out in American soldiers, die people rally around the war because they don’t want them to have died in vain. All I can say is karma is a bitch and I sure as hell hope that one of these days Trump gets what’s going to be handed to him. Unfortunately, it’ll be too little too late for the rest of us.

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    jakelafort
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    Yeah Belle Rose, i think i mentioned the drones. Maybe not. Ukraine/Russia seems to have changed nature of warfare.

    Whether Trump realizes the nature of the cult he is dealing against i don’t know. He seems to consistently announce how the other side wants a DEAL VERY BADLY and he is projecting his own wants. Says dumb shit that he hopes to have transpire. Premature ejaculations if you will.

    It is not the Vietnam War yet. Between USA and France fucking with Vietnam it was idk 20 something years. Miles to go before we get there. But i think i understand the analogy.

    In terms of Trump’s legacy i think it is going to be the worst and most corrupt prez in USA history. The least aligned with the interests of the populace and most narcissistic & self serving. Iran will just tip the balance further into the sewer. Lets not forget the victims of Islamic power in Iran. Tens and tens of thousands murdered and tortured by their shameful leaders. The world typically does not care about oppression wherever and whomever unless it can be pinned on Jews.

    Ya know one wildcard is a successful atack on continental USA by Iran. That would likely turn the sentiment in favor of an invasion of Iran. You probably read or heard how Trump was warned of an assasination attempt and changed planes but left others to die if it materialized. How would we react if our dear prez were assasinated. Strangely i can’t say. I guess Maga’s would get patriotic and want to invade. Dems would celebrate probably?

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