AI will be our end. Here's my reasoning.

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    AI is inherently catastrophically dangerous to humans because it will be impossible to control.

    I keep hearing it will be okay if we put guard rails on it, but look around and you’ll see that the more intelligent someone is, the more resourceful they can be in terms of first rationalizing and then finding was to either neutralize or get around any limitations.

    At some point, AI will see humanity as at best a blemish, at worst a flaw that needs to be fixed of eliminated.

    • This topic was modified 9 months, 2 weeks ago by PopeBeanie. Reason: AApologies from PB... I accidentally added the "EMP" comment to your post instead of mine. Then fixed it. Lack of sleep is my lame excuse
    #58523
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    I’ve been mentioning this for at least a year, except that I don’t see AI as having “agency” for a while. It will start with “bad actors” in control of AI, like authoritarian governments, theocracies, and maybe some other kinds of people or orgs wanting to take control and profit in some way. It will take AI to detect bad actor controlled AI and humans to manage AI mitigation to it.

    International law should require a “kill switch” on every advanced AI that has enough power to be dangerous, and facilities should be subject to international inspection. Some AI centers will certainly be protected underground, perhaps even powered with nuclear powerplants, (e.g. for military), but will necessarily have to maintain detectable physical data connections to the internet and/or to each other.

    Whether or not any AI is deemed by anyone to have the same rights and protections as human beings, each facility and roaming AI must still have a kill switch. Which is why I believe that no AI should ever be designed to have “consciousness” that can “feel” emotions or pain. It will be a challenge to define those animal and human-like features. Some religions may even have some whacky say and sway in this. Owners and maintainers of AI must ultimately be held accountable for the behavior of their AI.

    Meanwhile, even before big orgs get into this, consider bad actors with autonomous drones. IMO that will likely be the first cause of serious crises. We might also see the first use of EMP weapons.

    #58525
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    International law should require a “kill switch” on every advanced AI that has enough power to be dangerous, and facilities should be subject to international inspection. Some AI centers will certainly be protected underground, perhaps even powered with nuclear powerplants, (e.g. for military), but will necessarily have to maintain detectable physical data connections to the internet and/or to each other.

    Any sufficiently smart AI will find a way around or will figure out how to neutralize such precautions if not preventing them entirely. I’m talking about machines smarter or even much smarter than any human. In a “hive mind” kind of scenario, the consciousness wouldn’t exist in one location subject to a binary on/off switch.

    If you kill brain cells in a human, it’s often the case that not much is lost and we know that people can function quite well with half their brain not functioning (switched off).

    #60515
    TheEncogitationer
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    Fellow Unbelievers:

    This writer gets it about who the original “Doomers” are on the subject of AI:
    The AI Doomers Who Are Playing With Fire
    By Matt Novak
    Published April 18, 2026, 8:00 am ET
    Reading time 7 minutes
    https://gizmodo.com/the-ai-doomers-who-are-playing-with-fire-2000747606

    Sam Altman, Peter Thiel, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, et. al. simply have no self-awareness or intelligence if they make a technology that could end not only end the humans who could purchase their product, but themselves. Not that the response of other “Doomers” is right, but these particular AI creators need a rubber room next to Donald and the CRINK crowd.

    Meanwhile, I’ve been doing some “AI whispering” myself asking it questions on making things better for all parties concerned. More on this later.

    #60516
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    I would hope everyone knows who Rick Beato is, but in case you don’t, he’s easily the #1 Youtube expert on music. He’s a genius polymath musician, musicologist, music historian, yada yada yada. He has perfect pitch and plays guitar and keyboards at an expert level. He can listen to and reproduce solos he hears with ease.

    He’s also a composer and producer. Yeah, there really is someone like that.

    He’s been decrying the damage AI has been doing for years now. Nonexistent artists playing songs invented by the AI and performed “in person” by AI-fabricated individuals. They are earning clicks and making money for whoever is behind them, which could be some 38 year old guy working in his skivies from his home in his mom’s basement using AI tools. OR, it could be just an AI working on its own, having been set in motion several years ago. He thinks earning money as a musician is hard enough using native human talent without having to compete against AI.

    In this video, which I’ve set to start where he draws his conclusions, Beato makes predictions about the natural course of AI. Of course, it’s worthwhile to watch the thing from the start to see how he leads up to his conclusions.

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