Christianity: A Gay Religion?

[UnseenParticipant]

@strega

Of course, the main problem the Sikhs have is that they insist on wearing their dastars (the head wrapping) which means that for The Great Unwashed, they must be Muslims even though vast numbers of Muslims do not wear anything resembling a turban.

BTW, maybe you know the answer. Is Sikhism an evangelical religion? Do they actively recruit new members. Would they even accept a convert or are they so closely tied to their homeland that you’d have to be a Punjabi or to have Punjabi roots to be accepted?

I tried googling on whether Sikhism is evangelical but the Google algorithm insisted on interpreting “evangelical” to mean “Christian evangelical.”

[StregaModerator]

Sikhism is not evangelical. It’s the opposite. They give whatever you need and don’t ask your religion. If you want to know about their religion, you can ask, and a teacher will be found. It is not exclusive – all are welcome to believe in the Sikh way. They’re one god, reincarnation believers.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

In the UK, some Sikh girls are disowned by their families for not accepting forced marriages.

[StregaModerator]

‘Disowned’ sounds a lot better than stoned to death or another sort of ‘honour kill’. And I imagine if you choose not to have an arranged marriage which is a core expectation in your family, it’d be you rejecting them.

 

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

Honour killings do happen in the Sikh community.  But it’s cultural rather than religious.

[jakelafortParticipant]

The notion that one chooses one’s religion is akin to the religious notion one chooses one’s sexuality. It is force fed to children. The psychological chickens especially of orthodoxy overcome all but the most rhonjon resistant subjects. Christianity has a long history of exploiting unformed brains. Shit ought to be illegal until age 13.

[rhonjonParticipant]

I really Think we shouldn’t be so harsh in our interpretation of the Old Testament. Couldn’t the commandment for people to be stoned actually be a biblical endorsement for pot legalization?

[jakelafortParticipant]

rhonjon that makes as much sense to me as interpreting the handbook from god as an allegory or metaphor or some other spin to rationalize what can not be abided

[StregaModerator]

Simon,

Have you ever heard of ‘Crime of Passion’ laws?

In France in the 19th century a killing done in a jealous instant rage, for example, like catching your lover in bed with another and killing them, was actually a valid defence and you’d get off altogether.

Ahh the good old 19th Century, when jealous men were entitled to kill their betrayer. Where it was perfectly justifiable to stab your wife and her lover in a fit of rage.

Scroll forward to the 21st Century and let’s look at… Texas. In 2023. Right now on their laws, 20-99 years for murder, 2-20 years for a ‘crime of passion’ murder.

And in 2016, a woman in San Antonio got 2 years for smashing her two-timing Harley-riding husband to bits with her car, as it was ‘provoked’ by his infidelities.

I think honour is perceived differently in different societies, and all societies have killers. We can deride the reasons for other community killings, only if we deride ourselves for our own.

• This reply was modified 1 month ago by  Strega.

[StregaModerator]

Rhonjon, wasn’t there some kind of basic ‘green’ tutorial in those Bible verses?  Something about burning a bush that spoke in voices?

[rhonjonParticipant]

Strega wrote:

Rhonjon, wasn’t there some kind of basic ‘green’ tutorial in those Bible verses? Something about burning a bush that spoke in voices?There you go! The burning bush was actually my man Moses and his buddies lighting up joints in the wilderness.

[UnseenParticipant]

rhonjon wrote:

Strega wrote:

Rhonjon, wasn’t there some kind of basic ‘green’ tutorial in those Bible verses? Something about burning a bush that spoke in voices?There you go! The burning bush was actually my man Moses and his buddies lighting up joints in the wilderness.

Here’s how you separate your response from the quotation you are responding to. 1) Skip a line to separate your response from the quote, then 2) go up to the menu and select the double-quote icon, then 3) write out your response. BTW, the double-quote can be added later if you forget.

When you do this, your response is separate and not highlighted, the way what I’ve written here is. Makes the conversation much easier to parse.

[UnseenParticipant]

Strega wrote:

Sikhism is not evangelical. It’s the opposite. They give whatever you need and don’t ask your religion. If you want to know about their religion, you can ask, and a teacher will be found. It is not exclusive – all are welcome to believe in the Sikh way. They’re one god, reincarnation believers.

When you say they are “opposite” to evangelical, I might interpret that to mean actively discouraging anyone from conversion. Is that true?

[StregaModerator]

No, they’re opposite as in not caring whether you want to be a Sikh or not 🙂

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

Strega wrote:

I think honour is perceived differently in different societies, and all societies have killers. We can deride the reasons for other community killings, only if we deride ourselves for our own.

In our individualist, guilt-based culture, I’m not sure it’s such a widespread systemic problem as it is in collectivist, shame-based patriarchal cultures.

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