June 6, 2019 at 6:17 am #26398
Cults obviously have a lot in common with religion, and I’ve seen several times people say they’re no significant differences. I’m going to start a list of differences here, perhaps one video or story at a time.June 6, 2019 at 6:17 am #26399
June 6, 2019 at 2:41 pm #26404
- Living quarters or neighborhoods intentionally separated from other quarters or neighborhoods
- Reverence and high allegiance toward one specific person who dominates the group
I thought that the only difference between a religion and a cult was: a religion is a cult that lasted longer than one generation and the leader is fairly wise and does not allow leader worship to the point that the cult implodes/explodes (mass-suicide/die/fizzle-away/merge/repurpose/split/get-arrested/go-crazy/go-bankrupt/scare-off-everyone). Apart from that the only difference is it’s nature of being very large scale and smart planning/management.June 6, 2019 at 4:54 pm #26405
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I like the first comment:
“In a cult, there’s a guy at the top that knows it’s a scam. In a religion, that guy is long dead.”June 6, 2019 at 6:00 pm #26406
Yikes, consistent with my first two observations, as practiced by most Muslims, most of Islam is a cult!
(I’ve always thought of North Korea as a cult.)
My mother used to tell me I “analyze too much”. I’ve thought about this accusation, and understand where it’s coming from. (Get the irony there? Oh, some of you not getting it, never mind, no need to think about it.) Anyway, we may have differences in opinion wrt how we should be defining and using specific words. So be it. I can play that game, too! What’s scary (or at least irritating) is when people don’t care to understand other people’s true meanings or intentions when they speak.
I like Hemant. But for some (idiotic, thin-skinned?) reason, I wonder first if he’s attacking people like me:
Every time I see an article about the Jehovah’s Witnesses, or Scientologists, or any other relatively small but powerful religion, there are inevitably commenters who chime in and say, “It’s a cult!”
Which makes you wonder: How come those groups are cults but the Catholic Church or the evangelical megachurch next door are not?
“Commenters who chime in”. So I’m a chimer now. Maybe I’m even at risk of becoming a politically correct libtard snowflake (PCLS?).
But I get over that quickly enough (and everything’s not all about Me after all [and I’m saying that just in case that’s what you were thinking]), because he also contributes greatly to this topic, which I can copy/paste from the description on the video’s YouTube page (round bullet points are mine):
- 1) A cult doesn’t let you leave. A good religion, if we can call it that, lets you come and go without a problem. Sure, they want you to stay, but they’re not gonna come after you if you stop believing.
- 2) A cult only lets you associate with other cult members. Do you have friends who aren’t atheists or Christians or whatever you are? Good! A cult doesn’t let that happen. And if you leave the faith, they’re done with you.
- 3) A cult may require you to live with other cult members. Like in a single home or commune. With religions, you live on your own and come together every so often to worship.
- 4) Cults have singular leaders with all the power. He has special access to the truth and no one else does. That’s different from megachurch pastors, who might love the spotlight, but even they won’t say the road to salvation goes through them.
- 5) Cults don’t let you disagree. If you challenge the teachings or disagree with the theology, you should be able to have a discussion and debate about it. Most churches are okay with that. There are Christian apologists who run around trying to defend the faith from its critics, which is good, because it means they’re comfortable having that conversation! Questioning your beliefs is a good thing. I mean, if your religion can’t handle your questions, then you should leave it.
- 6) Cults are exclusive, even from within. You might be part of a cult, but that doesn’t mean you’re saved. You might have to be more dedicated. Or give them more of your money. Religions don’t work that way. Accept the divinity of Jesus and you’re golden. Follow the tenets of Islam and that’s that.
- 7) Cults are secretive. Only some people have access to all the cult’s information. Their finances. Their leadership hierarchy. Their beliefs, in some cases. You have to pay money and level up to learn Scientology’s biggest secrets. Most religions aren’t like that.
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