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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic The Power of Prayer in the forum Atheism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-prayer/page/2/#post-5257</link>
				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2017 17:57:14 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-prayer/page/2/#post-5251" rel="nofollow ugc">Belle Rose wrote:</a><br />
@Dang I’m not answering you. You’re not worth my time. And you don’t deserve an explanation.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve stayed OFF your threads, out of a minimum form of respect. When you step onto my thread, I will address you.</p>
<p>You have no worthy explanations, and I don&#8217;t care what you have to say. Good luck leaving Nazi Germany, and I hope that&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7771"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-prayer/page/2/#post-5257" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic The Power of Prayer in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2017 17:55:09 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-prayer/page/2/#post-5249" rel="nofollow ugc">jakelafort wrote:</a><br />
1. Dang, dang, you are kinda mean, gratuituously so…</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>2. Does it occur to you that Belle is bonded with people here and in turn others may be bonded with her?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>3. You speak for all of the members in saying she does not benefit anyone here?</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>4. All you do is pick with fights and declare yourself a victim? That is hyperbole.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>5. Why b&hellip;</p></blockquote>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic The Power of Prayer in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:11:34 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-prayer/page/2/#post-5244" rel="nofollow ugc">Belle Rose wrote:</a><br />
So fuck it. Why bother.</p></blockquote>
<p>And yet, you&#8217;re bothering, for some mysterious reason.</p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic The Power of Prayer in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:04:36 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-prayer/page/2/#post-5243" rel="nofollow ugc">Belle Rose wrote:</a></p>
<blockquote><p>….so no need to try to convince anyone that it’s real.</p></blockquote>
<p>You’re right. I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. I’m not going to pour my heart out to have it dragged through the mud. Deal with it.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then there is a serious question that must be answered.</p>
<p><em><strong>What the hell are you doing here?</strong></em> What are your goals? What do you get o&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7757"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-prayer/page/2/#post-5245" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic The Power of Prayer in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:12:12 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-prayer/#post-5225" rel="nofollow ugc">Belle Rose wrote:</a><br />
I have seen prayer work. But I’m sure you’ll disagree</p></blockquote>
<p>How can I disagree, when you&#8217;ve provided <em>nothing</em> for this conversation, including <em>nothing</em> for your own argument.</p>
<p>When did you see it work?</p>
<p>What happened?</p>
<p>How do you know that a supernatural being intervened?</p>
<p>How do you know WHICH supernatural being intervened?</p>
<p>How do yo&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7754"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-prayer/page/2/#post-5241" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic The Power of Prayer in the forum Atheism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-prayer/#post-5221</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:07:36 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s one reason why I&#8217;m here. I have no idea on what it is that &#8220;we&#8221; agree about, beyond the idea that there does not seem to be a good reason to belief in any gods, regardless of whether or not they are commercially-available for purchase. The other reason is to be as offensive as possible, or so I&#8217;ve heard.</p>
<p>I probably told the story before&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7735"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-prayer/#post-5221" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin started the topic The Power of Prayer in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:40:55 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I&#8217;ve never believed, there was one time when I was willing to give it a try.</p>
<p><strong>A CHRISTIAN&#8217;S ENCOURAGEMENT<br />
</strong>The majority of the kids at school were Christian, and had already turned their backs on me. But there was this one girl, Leah, who told me in the third grade that she wanted me to <em>&#8220;witness the power of prayer.&#8221;</em> She told me about how&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7717"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/the-power-of-prayer/" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic CONSCIOUSNESS AND STAR TREK&#039;S TRANSPORTER in the forum Small Talk</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/consciousness-and-star-treks-transporter/#post-5203</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2017 16:00:14 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone told me that they find comfort in the idea that our brains can be &#8220;backed up&#8221; into a computer.</p>
<p>Unless it&#8217;s <em>moved</em>, then it is only being <em>copied</em>, which suggests that the <em>original</em> is still slated to die.</p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic Sunday School September 17th 2017 in the forum Sunday School</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/groups/sunday-school/forum/topic/sunday-school-september-17th-2017/page/2/#post-5202</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:03:10 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/sunday-school/forum/topic/sunday-school-september-17th-2017/#post-5187" rel="nofollow ugc">Davis wrote:</a><br />
Please be careful with this kind of talk. People get in big trouble for suggesting someone kill anyone…let alone a political figure.</p></blockquote>
<p>In the 90s, I was a regular at the gun range and this guy [also a regular] had some home-made Bill Clinton pistol range targets. He offered me one for free, but I declined.</p>
<p>He abruptly was not seen a&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7709"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/groups/sunday-school/forum/topic/sunday-school-september-17th-2017/page/2/#post-5202" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic Right, Wrong, and Killing in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:33:25 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This thread went all over the place, but that&#8217;s okay because it opens the floor to more things. Besides, it&#8217;s just a thread. No big whoop.</p>
<p>When it comes to a college education, it&#8217;s important to remember that <strong>&#8220;Ds get degrees.&#8221;</strong> My aunt went to college for six years to get her Master&#8217;s in Political Science, and she&#8217;s not <em>even</em> the best waitress at&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7708"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/right-wrong-and-killing/page/3/#post-5201" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin started the topic Belief and &#034;The Backfire Effect&#034; in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2017 14:44:21 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[<a href="https://youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10/the-backfire-effect/" rel="noopener noreferrer" rel="nofollow ugc">source</a>]</p>
<p><strong>The Misconception:</strong> When your beliefs are challenged with facts, you alter your opinions and incorporate the new information into your thinking.</p>
<p><strong>The Truth:</strong> When your deepest convictions are challenged by contradictory evidence, your beliefs get stronger.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t consider my position of non-belief to be a &#8220;deep conviction.&#8221; It&#8217;s a n&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7618"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/belief-and-the-backfire-effect/" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin started the topic Xtian &#034;Thinking&#034; and Gay Marriage Politics in the forum Politics</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2017 20:21:03 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just saw a story about a man who is suing the state of Alabama for <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-sues-alabama-not-recognizing-marriage-computer-article-1.3478052" rel="noopener noreferrer" rel="nofollow ugc"><em>not recognizing his marriage to his laptop</em></a>.</p>
<p><strong>ABOUT CHRIS SEVIER<br />
</strong>Chris Sevier is a man who is lawsuit-happy, to say the least. He sued A&amp;E for &#8220;religious persecution&#8221; because they dropped Phil Roberts from a program for anti-gay comments. He sued Apple because his device did not&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7586"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/xtian-thinking-and-gay-marriage-politics/" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin started the topic Four Tales of Convenient Believers in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2017 14:30:27 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over the past 50+ years, I&#8217;ve met a number of different type of religious believers. There are those few who appear to take it seriously, and knuckle down to do the work to which they are tasked. My first thought goes to a man with whom I worked at a food bank for the homeless. There are those who appear to take it both seriously AND literally,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7583"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/four-tales-of-convenient-believers/" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic Right, Wrong, and Killing in the forum Atheism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/right-wrong-and-killing/page/2/#post-5086</link>
				<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:33:23 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/right-wrong-and-killing/page/2/#post-5085" rel="nofollow ugc">David Boots wrote:</a><br />
But if you think you made the wrong decisions do you now think you could go back in time and make a better decision. Probably not.</p></blockquote>
<p>With my grandmother&#8217;s situation, the one requiring the active decision, I think that I was in a place where the right decision was impossible, because my son&#8217;s presence was the wild card. It came&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7581"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/right-wrong-and-killing/page/2/#post-5086" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic Right, Wrong, and Killing in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 22:58:23 +0000</pubDate>

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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic Right, Wrong, and Killing in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 22:32:53 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/right-wrong-and-killing/#post-5059" rel="nofollow ugc">JadeBlackOlive wrote:</a><br />
I’ve heard it many times the words should be…… shalt not ”murder”.</p></blockquote>
<p>It might depend on which version of the bible is reference.</p>
<p>For King James Version, the most popular version in America, in <strong>Exodus 20:13 &#8211; <em>Thou shalt not kill.</em></strong></p>
<p><img loading="lazy" src="http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/25/25d65f6e09e5e8e6f4c12d15a86a92bed25adb59236e58adaa3676697255f538.jpg" alt="" width="298" height="303" />The source below also references non-English versions, and gets into some points about this,&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7553"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/right-wrong-and-killing/#post-5061" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin posted an update: Assertions are cheap and easy to make. The hard part is [&#133;]</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 21:09:21 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assertions are cheap and easy to make. The hard part is backing up one&#8217;s claim. Those who try to back it up, regardless of whether they are right or wrong, have earned my respect, for their efforts show that they are trying, and that they are willing to learn.</p>
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				<title>Dang Martin changed their profile picture</title>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic Right, Wrong, and Killing in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:27:38 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I wonder why so many American &#8220;Christians&#8221; own guns, and are all about &#8220;stand your ground.&#8221;</p>
<p>When I hear that &#8220;Jesus would not raise a fist,&#8221; I cannot help but imagine him with a double-edged sword coming out of his mouth. I know, the mouth is not a fist.</p>
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				<title>Dang Martin started the topic Right, Wrong, and Killing in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:00:42 +0000</pubDate>

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<p>I happened across some photographs that reminded me of one of the biggest moral dilemmas that I have ever faced in my entire life.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, killing is wrong. One of the ten commandments appears to be clear about it: <em>Thou shalt not kill.</em></p>
<p>A good enough message, on the surface. But this gets complicated when someone breaks your door d&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7535"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/right-wrong-and-killing/" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic When God/Jesus Talks To Someone in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:47:08 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News story: <a href="http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Mom-Stabs-8-Day-Old-Son-Says-Baby-Was-Created-By-the-Devil-Police-443973703.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" rel="nofollow ugc">God tells a woman to stab her 8-day-old baby in the eye because it was created &#8220;by the devil.&#8221;</a></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic Working to Forgive Christians in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:43:13 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will usually go with &#8220;sorry for your loss&#8221; and stop there. Otherwise, I may head into &#8220;how &#8217;bout then Dodgers?&#8221; territory.</p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic When God/Jesus Talks To Someone in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:39:51 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/when-godjesus-talks-to-someone/#post-5021" rel="nofollow ugc">JadeBlackOlive wrote:</a><br />
So many disasters, on top of disasters.</p></blockquote>
<p>I remember when we had the 1994 Northridge Earthquake, which was the last big one we&#8217;ve had, so we are overdue.</p>
<p>There was preacher after preacher, coming out to say that it was because &#8220;go-wad&#8221; [Southern accent, two syllables] was trying to destroy the pornography industry. Northridge&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7532"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/when-godjesus-talks-to-someone/#post-5043" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic Some thoughts on agency in the forum Small Talk</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 21:10:52 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/some-thoughts-on-agency/#post-5003" rel="nofollow ugc">Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:</a><br />
@Dang – Have you ever delved into ideas about “<a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982205009607" rel="noopener noreferrer" rel="nofollow ugc">Theory of Mind</a>“</p></blockquote>
<p>I read that link, and it&#8217;s got some fascinating ideas.</p>
<p>I could be wrong on a detail of this that was not addressed. When Maxi put his chocolate in the cupboard, he <em>knew</em> that it was there. At some point, it switched from <em>knowing</em> it was there, to <em>&hellip;</em><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7506"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/some-thoughts-on-agency/#post-5008" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic When God/Jesus Talks To Someone in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:55:19 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/when-godjesus-talks-to-someone/#post-5001" rel="nofollow ugc">Strega wrote:</a><br />
You cannot keep babies out of ovens. You have to start with that precept. After that, I would consider that the perpetrator would probably put the baby in the oven under a different perceived reason if they had no religion.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s true.</p>
<p>Reminds me of a friend I had in college. He was a weirdo, like me. End of school year, 1985, he&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7504"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/when-godjesus-talks-to-someone/#post-5006" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic Working to Forgive Christians in the forum Atheism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/working-to-forgive-christians/#post-5005</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:49:42 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My girlfriend&#8217;s brother died in April. My little sister died at the end of June. There was no shortage of people saying that they&#8217;d pray for us. We would just thank them and move on. I see it as a place holder that they use when they don&#8217;t know what to say.</p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic Some thoughts on agency in the forum Small Talk</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:48:02 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/some-thoughts-on-agency/#post-5003" rel="nofollow ugc">Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:</a><br />
@Dang – Have you ever delved into ideas about “<a href="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982205009607" rel="noopener noreferrer" rel="nofollow ugc">Theory of Mind</a>“</p></blockquote>
<p>I have not, but I am going to do that. Thank you for the link.</p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/11/#post-4997</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:12:19 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the first time I was presented with all of this, and how I later investigated, and then determined that I had no good reason to believe any of it.</p>
<p>This did not mean that I was smarter than anyone. It only meant that I saw no reason why I should believe it.</p>
<p>This did not mean that I was elite. It only meant that I saw no reason why I&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7497"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/11/#post-4997" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/11/#post-4992</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 15:32:25 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/11/#post-4990" rel="nofollow ugc">Nerdy Keith wrote:</a><br />
I think people need to acknowledge the difference between lacking faith and activity claim they know no gods exist. This is why I’m on the agnostic spectrum of atheism.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m the same, and do consider myself an Agnostic Atheist, for ease of discussion, even though a more accurate description is that I&#8217;m <em>&#8220;The Guy Who Sees No R&hellip;</em><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7495"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/11/#post-4992" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic Some thoughts on agency in the forum Small Talk</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/some-thoughts-on-agency/#post-4991</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 15:10:08 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/some-thoughts-on-agency/#post-4980" rel="nofollow ugc">Unseen wrote:</a><br />
There’s that saying “Think before you speak,” but most of us don’t…because there’s no need to.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have a rather desperate need to think before I speak, because &#8220;business as usual&#8221; is actually working against me.</p>
<p>Last month, my therapist performed a battery of tests on me. Those test results, combined with some observation&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7494"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/some-thoughts-on-agency/#post-4991" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin started the topic When God/Jesus Talks To Someone in the forum Atheism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/when-godjesus-talks-to-someone/</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 14:45:31 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had moved to Galveston, Texas for a brief while in the late 90s. After moving there, one of the first local news stories that I read was about a woman who was arrested because, <em>&#8220;God told her to put the baby in the oven.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>As I tried to look for a link to that story right now, I found another story in Galveston, where a man who claims that <em>&#8220;<a href="http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Dad-allegedly-microwaved-baby-in-Galveston-1802570.php" rel="noopener noreferrer" rel="nofollow ugc">he w&hellip;</a></em><span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7492"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/when-godjesus-talks-to-someone/" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/11/#post-4985</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 02:25:09 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not believed for my entire life, since 1964, and only picked up the label in the middle of 2009, when I was making videos on YouTube. At the time, searching for &#8220;Atheist&#8221; was by far easier than searching for<em> &#8220;the guy who sees no reason why he should believe that, even after a thorough investigation.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a small club of one, but I don&#8217;t&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7489"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/11/#post-4985" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin posted an update: Big news! I am no longer an Atheist! It seems that Atheists [&#133;]</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 01:45:25 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big news! I am no longer an Atheist! It seems that Atheists have to hold a belief that gods do not exist. So, from now on, I will be know as: The Guy Who Sees No Reason Why He Should Believe That, Even After a Thorough Investigation.</p>
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				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/11/#post-4982</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 01:39:20 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/#post-4696" rel="nofollow ugc">Unseen wrote:</a><br />
Apparently, this isn’t atheism, because nowadays most atheists insist that atheism isn’t a belief in the nonexistence of God, it’s simply having no belief as regards God. In other words, they haven’t given it any thought. I think that’s nuts.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not having belief does <em>not</em> mean not giving it any thought. I don&#8217;t even know how a person&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7483"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/11/#post-4982" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/10/#post-4974</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 00:30:35 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, no hope of this becoming productive or enlightening, and it&#8217;s definitely not entertaining.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen enough embarrassing behavior for the night, so I&#8217;m actually going to be checking out, probably until tomorrow. This thread has turned into a lost cause, and that&#8217;s really too bad that the mean, disrespectful, unreasonable, cussing Atheists&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7478"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/10/#post-4974" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/10/#post-4972</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 00:24:14 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A poor victim, who cannot detail exactly what I&#8217;ve done due to an inability to define words, as well as not being required to explain anything.</p>
<p>Being on a forum while not needing to explain anything is like going to a restaurant and not eating anything.</p>
<p>I feel very sorry for you, and I forgive you. Again.</p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/10/#post-4969</link>
				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 00:17:50 +0000</pubDate>

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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 00:16:28 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/10/#post-4967" rel="nofollow ugc">Belle Rose wrote:</a><br />
@Dang I’ve GOTTEN help. You need to get help.</p></blockquote>
<p>So sad.</p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2017 00:07:50 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/10/#post-4960" rel="nofollow ugc">Belle Rose wrote:</a><br />
But you ARENT being respectful. “You kiss baby Jesus with those lips?”….FUCK YOU you asshole. RE: After all, you’ve invested your entire life into your beliefs. No I haven’t. See you don’t even fucking know what you’re talking about.</p></blockquote>
<p>I guess maybe I don&#8217;t. All I know about you is what you&#8217;ve been presenting to me. You are very&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7471"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/10/#post-4966" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/9/#post-4957</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 23:37:04 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/9/#post-4956" rel="nofollow ugc">Belle Rose wrote:</a><br />
@Dang stop talking to me. You are wrong and you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. Just stop talking to me.</p></blockquote>
<p>So long as I am being respectful and constructive, I may speak with whomever I wish.</p>
<p>Denial is a powerful thing. You are afraid to even consider the idea that I might be right. After all, you&#8217;ve invested y&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7462"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/9/#post-4957" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/9/#post-4955</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 23:29:36 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/9/#post-4954" rel="nofollow ugc">Belle Rose wrote:</a><br />
I really don’t give a fuck anymore. My pent up rage is coming out and If you don’t like it get out of my way. This started long before you came on the forum and you have no idea what’s going through my head right now.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have a really good idea of what is going on. And do you kiss Baby Jesus with that mouth?</p>
<p>You have a belie&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7460"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/9/#post-4955" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 23:09:16 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like Sisyphus pushing a boulder up a hill. It&#8217;s just going nowhere fast.</p>
<p>While it is typically proper decor to criticize the belief, and not the believer, there are instances where criticism of the believer is in order. But I may also have criticism of the question itself.</p>
<p>What evidence would be reasonable or acceptable?</p>
<p>The hard truth is&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7457"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/9/#post-4952" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 22:21:54 +0000</pubDate>

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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 22:18:50 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/7/#post-4920" rel="nofollow ugc">Belle Rose wrote:</a><br />
There are plenty of scientific studies that have been done that is part of what has satisfied ME&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;such as????</p>
<p>There are no scientific studies about supernatural claims, because science is all about the study of the natural world. As for the supernatural world, one could fairly surmise that it <em>just ain&#8217;t natural.</em></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic Working to Forgive Christians in the forum Atheism</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 22:16:50 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/working-to-forgive-christians/#post-4923" rel="nofollow ugc">PopeBeanie wrote:</a><br />
I would love to see an ex-Muslim’s version of this narrative, too, but the personal stakes for them can be soooo much higher.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see that as well. I should note, at this time, that I am not an ex-Christian. I&#8217;m not an ex anything. I&#8217;ve actually never believed. I wonder how many people are in that camp.</p>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 20:35:34 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In one of my previous posts, <strong><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/being-told-what-i-am/" rel="noopener noreferrer" rel="nofollow ugc">Being Told What I Am</a></strong>, I highlight some of the horrible treatment that I&#8217;ve received from so-called &#8220;loving Christians&#8221; over the course of my life.</p>
<p>Before I continue, those Christians who say that those people &#8220;are not true Christians&#8221; [No True Scotsman Fallacy], understand that they would say that YOU are not a true&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7426"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/working-to-forgive-christians/" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/7/#post-4904</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:20:06 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/7/#post-4901" rel="nofollow ugc">Belle Rose wrote:</a><br />
I’m not avoiding anything. I’m saying I need to write a book to respond properly and I fucking DONT HAVE TIME RIGHT NOW SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!</p></blockquote>
<p>And that&#8217;s another way to avoid answering.</p>
<p><em><strong>fin</strong></em></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/7/#post-4903</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:19:16 +0000</pubDate>

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<a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/6/#post-4900" rel="nofollow ugc">Belle Rose wrote:</a><br />
@Dang Martin Im not going to respond to you at all anymore. I don’t want to engage with you. <strong>You know nothing about me</strong> or my history on this forum and you’re being really disrespectful.</p></blockquote>
<p>Said the person who knows everything about me. Interesting.</p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
				<link>https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/6/#post-4898</link>
				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 18:50:24 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that is how one avoids challenging their own beliefs.</p>
<p><em><strong>fin</strong></em></p>
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				<title>Dang Martin replied to the topic I believe there&#039;s no rhinoceros in my coat closet in the forum Theism</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2017 18:44:51 +0000</pubDate>

									<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m seeing lots of problems associated with the concept of proof.</p>
<p><strong>Religious Problem:</strong> It is clear that <em>bellerose</em> is requiring rather specific things that would serve as &#8220;proof.&#8221; These requirements are so high that seemingly legitimate and reasonable answers to what would serve as proof are not good enough for her. These articles of proof are i&hellip;<span class="activity-read-more" id="activity-read-more-7408"><a href="https://atheistzone.com/forums/topic/i-believe-theres-no-rhinoceros-in-my-coat-closet/page/6/#post-4892" rel="nofollow ugc">[Read more]</a></span></p>
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