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Moon babies would look adoringly at the pale blue dot.

Regaled in stories of yore before earth was destroyed the moon babies play in craters the way earth babies played in sand boxes.

Humans are already breeding like blind monkey rabbits even as civilization is on a collision course with its extinction.

Read an article couple a days ago indicating that our own little moon has ample oxygen to support a great many humans for a long time. But it is not in the atmosphere. It is in the surface and we have the technology to extract it. I am not averring the truth of the matter asserted only being messenger tellin all y’all.

Sounds like a rough patch Enco. It is always a big relief to get shit like that behind you with clean bill of health.

But i think the shortage in qualified professionals has as much to do with the cost of education as some collusion or other. I also am guessing that certificates of need for diagnostic equipment relates to the pandemic as opposed…[Read more]

What if the question were presented as follows: A five year old boy has been raped repeatedly. Was it a Catholic priest, atheist, Muslim or Satanist?

Theists do so care about the truth. As long as it aligns with their preconceived truth! I am not asserting that
having an atheist’s foundation as aforementioned will shake many believers of their theism. Nor am i denying that
theism predisposes believers to being more credulous in other areas of BS.

However the association with reliable…[Read more]

Here is an idea.

Have an atheist organization that is dedicating to outing lies and exposing BS. Make it nonpartisan. Public figures who tell whoppers. Call em out. The world of woo? Expose it. Perhaps an affiliation with the Skeptical Inquirer for the world of woo. Fake scientist who just have degrees to lend credence to creationism or any…[Read more]

Yeah Enco just let the market handle all of those niche opportunities to be magnanimous. It is not like Businesses won’t prioritize profits over public welfare.

As to lobbying you got that part right. But lets see, why is our government sold out to big corporations? How is it that they write the laws through their oracles the legislators? Oh…[Read more]

I only count to three.

Highly unlikely transforms into highly probable when conditions are duplicated countless times. Or angels did it.

Unseen, if it is my creation then i am going to exclude any founders who are ideologues, who are not amenable to persuasion when a better argument presents, and i am going to look for people who are interested in the welfare of the masses as opposed to particular classes of skinny or fat asses. Yes that reflects a preexisting value judgment. I…[Read more]

Lets see. I would include philosophers, neuroscientists, social psychologists and perhaps artificial intelligence. I am saying it is a way to arrive at something reasonable. They wont have the cozy absolutist feelings of a mythical stone tablet with the ten commandments. But it is the best we can do. Just guidance.

Unseen, the notion of ethical absolutes is as far as i can see chimerical. Sure i see the advantage provided the absolutes are well conceived.

I think experts in various field could use their expertise to draft precepts. They would be far from absolute and incorporate the plasticity of a constitution or any other field where knowledge is layered.

The social contract? Is it an absolute? No. It is a construct.

Are ethical precepts or rules absolute? Is there some ethereal zone in which one can find such? Of course not. It is just the application of reason to abstract concepts. However, the conclusion i’ve reached does not invalidate ethical precepts. It simply is a matter of forming…[Read more]

Ok Unseen thanks for that contingent philosophical imperative.

There is not even a singular bible and whatever the original text was has been changed countless times. Nor were the apostles even first hand witnesses. The literal text is so fucking horrific that the fundamentalists are considered nut jobs. The idea of a text from the creator that is metaphorical or allegorical is fucking ridiculous. So the…[Read more]

Reg: Craig gives a reasonable explanation of what he means by objective and absolute morality here.

I don’t have an issue with his linguistic distinctions until this part. The point is that if God exists, there are objective moral values and we have objective moral duties to fulfill in whatever circumstances we find ourselves.

In what sense is…[Read more]

WLC hangs his hat on the spurious errr BS notion that morality is only possible if it is handed down by the Christian God. Well whodafuq died and made God the boss of me? The authority vested in their imaginary benefactor suggests a power structure but not right from wrong. Giving in to that BS is for the simple minded religiously inclined…[Read more]

From Unseen: We are not doing law here but philosophy.

I helped with the definition of contingencies because the one you gave was inaccurate. The law part was incidental and included because it was illustrative and easily conceptualized.

Apropos of absolutely nothing i have this quote i ascribe to Francois Villon. Not sure if it is imagined or…[Read more]

No, on that definition of contingencies: Contingencies are things which are but might be otherwise.

That word comes up often in law. It aint what is-it is not a state of being. It is about what may occur. I will shoot him in the nuts contingent on that rat bastard ratting me out. What are the contingencies in the springing power of attorney? He…[Read more]