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@jakelafort: Yep. And the thing is that honestly….I’ve combed through EVERY..and I DO MEAN EVERY (no I’m not shouting but how else do you put the emphasis on the words? I can’t say it enough…) I’ve combed through every single fucking resource that the entire united state mental health system has to offer.

His information has been the…[Read more]

@jakelafort – “Says he believes in hell”

– he says he believes in “hell on earth” – that one’s living experience can be a living hell.

He’s talking about many of the concepts that are used in Christianity, but that doesn’t make him a Christian.  I do exactly the same things but in more atheistic language.

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in an interesting way.

“In other words the pawn acts not out of good conscience but selfishly.”

– I agree in one way – this can go badly wrong, as we see with Isis.  But much of the time, it motivates people to act well.  Self-interest is at the heart of morality anyway.

But with Jordan Peterson’s back-to-basics version this d…[Read more]

@jakelafort –

Logos – 1) the word of God, 2) principle of reason or judgement.

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– Logos = the word = rationality = reality.

@jakelafort so why don’t you live there? lol

@Simon maybe I’ll go there and become a burlesque dancer with my friend lol that would be amazing

@jakelafort I will check out VT for sure, I know it’s been a place I’ve considered for a very  long time.

@jakelafort what part of Vermont to you recommend? I’m going to PM you

@jakelafort – you don’t want to believe everything you hear.  It’s more scientific to go straight to the horse’s mouth.

@jakelafort – why don’t you watch the half-hour interview he did for British TV, which is on Sunday School May 6th.  Instead of what other people have to say.  That will give you a good representation of what he’s about – you may be surprised.  He doesn’t mention God once, and morality maybe glancingly.

@jakelafort – “a fair synopsis of Peterson”

– from what I’ve seen, it’s more “using psychology to better yourself”.  The religious part probably comes from Jung and his archetypes.  I’ve barely seen him mention religion or morality at all.

The famously painful interview with Sam Harris was a mismatch between different definitions of truth.  Ha…[Read more]

Personally it gives me feelings of Freiheit and Freude.  In fact, I might have a Feier.

@jakelafort – here‘s an excellent related article from Sunday School December 3rd 2017: “Does Religion Make People Moral?”

@jakelafort – “if Germans felt what they were doing was right, then why was there so much widespread denial of knowledge of the holocaust?”

– that’s a very good point, that shows the way to a universal morality or ethics.  They knew they would be condemned by pretty much the whole world, forever, as a definition of evil.  It’s interesting how I…[Read more]

@regthefronkeyfarmer – I agree, a concept doesn’t have to match up with reality.

@unseen – I think you misunderstood what I was saying.

@jakelafort – there are two classes of ethical principles: interpersonal, and cultural.  The interpersonal were the original ones from small groups before culture and religion, which is why they are shared by…[Read more]

@jakelafort – I was agreeing with you.  There are factual aspects of an ethical judgement.  First there’s the action itself, which is is a given fact.  Then there are judgements of how the action fits various ethical criteria – how did it score on fairness, reciprocity, unconditional harm, whatever.  If we understand what these are about, we are…[Read more]

@jakelafort – “BUT it is amenable to reason, so much so that we will find near unanimity as aforementioned.”

– we can say things like, fairness consists of x, y, z concepts, reciprocity consists of a, b, c concepts, and so, act A meets x, y criteria for fairness and b type of reciprocity.  Each of these moral phenomena can be spelled out and…[Read more]

@unseen – I think “good” and “evil” are real and not constructs.  Hitler’s Germany was an evil place where people did evil things.  Evil reigned for a number of years.  Isis are evil, and where Isis reign, evil reigns.

@jakelafort – “The sophisitication of cooperation is quite remarkable not only intra-species but among different species.”

– it…[Read more]

@jakelafort – “when your name is one word and preceded by THE.”

– this is very true.  We are in the presence of the greatness.

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I am sick of stupid americans genuflecting to high mucky-muk personalities and electing them our president.

I hate to break it to you. But it’s a little late for complaining about that. If there is anything that Donald Trump did for America, it was that he proved that ANYBODY can become PrezidENT of the EU NITED States! lol.

Now it is…[Read more]

@jakelafort Steak, Pork, Chicken, Shrimp, Tuna, all sorts of cheese, eggs, heavy cream, butter, half and half for my coffee with a ton of Splenda, spinach, broccoli, mushrooms, bacon, macadamia, cashew and almond nuts, peanut butter, Diet Coke, tea, and I have some ‘fake’ bread now with 1 net carb a slice, iceberg lettuce, a few cherry tomatoes,…[Read more]