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Thanks for the links Enco.

Robert: Right Jake, wow what an important point. Like propaganda is something new. What a revelation!

Can’t fault your sarcasm at least if the audience consists of yourself, Davis, Unseen, Fronkey et. al. However the stink of group-think drives opinions and creates dangerous circumstances. I doubt even ten percent of Americans question the…[Read more]

Robert i don’t disagree with your assessment as to Putin and Russia. But that is not Dore’s point. The point is the public is being manipulated with propaganda. I agree. It is all bullshit. Wrap up the slogans, platitudes, misinformation with a big pink bow and watch the marrionettist work its public puppet.

I am wondering if any of you disagree with Dore.

Enco, i did not know that dressings were being renamed. Boycotting Tschaikovsky? How fucking stupid! I just listened to the 1812 overture perchance… I may have mentioned before how i read this book by a Jewish feminist and she writes how all Jews were shunned, no longer welcome at the feminist gatherings. Any association with Jews and Israel was…[Read more]

Yeah Unseen, more indication how hypocritical and hollow are the platitudes. It is a fundamental failing of humanity that we do not as a group see through the herd mentality as our empathy is directed by a marionettist. When the US invaded Iraq the marionettist unified Americans in their righteous mission. When the US invaded Mexico almost all…[Read more]

Unseen, good link.

Man alive, in Yemen at least 120,000 deaths since start of it and 20k in 2020. Violence all over!

Actually Enco it was a scorched earth policy in the war of 1812-not just Moscow. For an excellent first hand account of the campaign see Diary of a Silesian Foot Soldier. If memory serves 600,000 soldiers under Napoleon entered Russian and only 60,000 survived. Human life is cheap. Cheap cheap cheap…beep beep beep.

My bigger query is not what…[Read more]

Did not listen but from what i’ve read/heard he wants to make Russia Great again.

Guessing he likes Gorky’s Mother and any other literature glorifying its history.

THIS JUST IN: Gratuitous, cranktakerous savagery will be not be tolerated. If in the judgment of the moderators participants have conducted themselves in such a manner they will be given the choice between donning Istvan’s custom made dome protector aka homemade hat or being permanently barred from cranktank and its affiliates.

Autumn my neologism is cranktankerous.

Parting thought…if you crank tankers would stop taking contentions and assertions literally you would see how facile and glib you can be by mischaracterizing their conclusions & positions. It is not like they mean what they write. If it seems patronizing and dishonest that is not literally what i am doing..

I am fortunate to have learned that religion must be taken on its terms-not any modern humanistic ethical terms. We should be more understanding of the myriad intolerable impositions. Similarly the ideology and mythology of slavery that kept innocents in chains ought to be so understood. No matter how fucked over individuals are and civilization…[Read more]

Istvan, you are utilizing dishonest debating techniques or so it appears to me.

In my fantasy scholars produce an encyclopedia of the harms caused by religion. One of the underappreciated is the early access to unformed impressionable minds. In my estimation the early indoctrination of children is a crime and not a petty one. I won’t expand cuz…[Read more]

That was a good rant, Davis.

I held back. Ya know i get it when theists rationalize about the impact of religion. They’re ignorant or they buy the propaganda. But for an educated atheist it is weird.

Istvan i was responding to your conclusion: But our reluctance to meet religion on its own terms isn’t religion’s problem. For plenty of people it works just fine.

It is a distortion to give religion a pass because it works out for plenty of people. Why would one meet an institution that has retarded civilization in every meaningful way ima…[Read more]

Yeah Istvan it is working out well for the pedophiles who find sanctuary for their peculiar practices. And not only is civilization advancing as children find out what the world is really about but politicians, dictators et. al. have ready made citizens to spoon feed and utilize for their nefarious ends. And one can only imagine how many Muslims…[Read more]

Istvan i can make out a few interpretations of what you have indited here: ironically, this is the same blind spot that many atheists have toward what we call reality. To my way of thinking, if someone can’t deal with metaphor or ambiguity, they’re mistaking the finger for what it’s pointing to.

Care to elucidate without ambiguity?