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  • Earle Sanborn posted an update in the group Group logo of Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.Science — the kind that requires evidence and reason. 8 years, 8 months ago

    The Large Hadron Collider mapped the whole human genome in 2001-2002.The upshot was there is no gene for LBGTQ- and most certainly not transgender. There is no such thing.
    Just about everything we do is habitual- open doors, start cars, make coffee, go to the bathroom, etc. I’m 57 three kids, CPA, CFE a man who understands numbers, trends, etc.
    Since science didn’t back up the choice of whom you wish to have sex with- the powers to be made it political- based on feelings, thoughts, emotions rather than reality, logic and reason. The Obama Administration obliterated free will – now just about anything someone does is not a choice but conditional. Wow I’m waiting for the political “science” of man to “find” the “Fraud” gene. Then what will you do with the Madoff’s of the world. They can’t help it. So much BS passes as ‘science’ even the Science guy is a clown to those with an IQ above room temperature

    • “The Large Hadron Collider mapped the whole human genome in 2001-2002”.

      Incorrect.

      • That’s all you have to say is “incorrect” Where is your proof it didn’t happen? Here’s proof it did

        “This is the Way God Made Me”–A Scientific Examination of Homosexuality and the “Gay Gene”

        by Dave Miller, Ph.D.
        Brad Harrub, Ph.D.

        The trumpets were left at home and the parades were canceled. The press releases and campaign signs were quietly forgotten. The news was big, but it did not contain what some had hoped for. On April 14, 2003, the International Human Genome Consortium announced the successful completion of the Human Genome Project—two years ahead of schedule. The press report read: “The human genome is complete and the Human Genome Project is over” (see “Human Genome Report…,” 2003, emp. added). Most of the major science journals reported on the progress in the field of genetics, but also speculated on how the information would now be used. The one piece of information that never materialized from the Human Genome Project was the identification of the so-called “gay gene.”

        Homosexuality has been practiced for thousands of years. Simply put, homosexuality is defined as sexual relations between like genders (i.e., two males or two females). It was Sigmund Freud who first postulated that parental relationships with a child ultimately determine the youngster’s sexual orientation. But this “nurturing” aspect has effectively given way to the “nature” side of the equation. Can some behaviors (e.g., alcoholism, homosexuality, schizophrenia) be explained by genetics? Are these and other behaviors influenced by nature or by nurture? Are they inborn or learned? Some individuals believed that the answer would be found hiding amidst the chromosomes analyzed in the Human Genome Project.

        The human X and Y chromosomes (the two “sex” chromosomes) have been completely sequenced. Thanks to work carried out by labs all across the globe, we know that the X chromosome contains 153 million base pairs, and harbors a total of 1168 genes (see NCBI, 2004). The National Center for Biotechnology Information reports that the Y chromosome—which is much smaller—contains “only” 50 million base pairs, and is estimated to contain a mere 251 genes. Educational institutions such as Baylor University, the Max Planck Institute, the Sanger Institute, Washington University in St. Louis, and others have spent countless hours and millions of research dollars analyzing these unique chromosomes. As the data began to pour in, they allowed scientists to construct gene maps—using actual sequences from the Human Genome Project. And yet, neither the map for the X nor the Y chromosome contains any “gay gene.”

        What is the truth regarding homosexuality? Too often, speculation, emotions, and politics play a major role in its assessment. The following is a scientific investigation of human homosexuality.

        BEHAVIORAL GENETICS AND CIVIL RIGHTS

        In an effort to affect public policy and gain acceptance, the assertion often is made that homosexuals deserve equal rights just as other minority groups—and should not be punished for, or forbidden from, expressing their homosexuality. The fight for the acceptance of homosexuality often is compared to “civil rights” movements of racial minorities. Due to America’s failure to settle fully the civil rights issue (i.e., full and equal citizenship of racial minorities), social liberals, feminists, and homosexual activists were provided with the perfect “coat tail” to ride to advance their agenda. Using this camouflage of innate civil liberties, homosexual activists were able to divert attention away from the behavior, and focus it on the “rights.”

        The argument goes like this: “Just as a person cannot help being black, female, or Asian, I cannot help being homosexual. We were all born this way, and as such we should be treated equally.” However, this argument fails to comprehend the true “civil rights” movements. The law already protects the civil rights of everyone—black, white, male, female, homosexual, or heterosexual. Homosexuals enjoy the same civil rights everyone else does. The contention arises when specific laws deprive all citizens of certain behaviors (e.g., sodomy, etc.). We should keep in mind that these laws are the same for all members of society. Because of certain deprivations, homosexuals feel as though “equal” rights have been taken away (i.e., marriage, tax breaks, etc.).

        PS. I know a few homosexuals that they admit privately of course it’s a choice Earle. Open your eyes to the myths that are around you and how they effect you, family, society.
        I’m not against anyone who is – what I’m against is substituting political science for real, honest, double blind science. We have free will- to get up in the AM or not, to eat grits or not, and to sleep with whomever we want or not to. Character!

    • “The Large Hadron Collider mapped the whole human genome in 2001-2002” – This is so laughably incorrect I’m forced to be extra skeptical of every word I ever see you write. It’s like saying Christopher Columbus was the first elephant to fly around the world… it’s THAT wrong.

      Also, why have you posted directly into the group rather than making a forum post?