Suppose It’s All True?

[John PhillipSpectator]

_Robert_ wrote:

The same Professor John Lennox, who in a debate with Dawkins makes the argument from ignorance and personal credulity over and over? No thanks. 10 seconds listening to that guy is 10 seconds wasted.

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Professor Lennox is anything but ignorant.   You spend time reading the comments of atheists and speak of time “wasted”??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKzizwPwNWU&t=36s

 

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

@john Phillip – “Let him who hath no sword sell his garment and buy one.”

– what’s that now?  Terrorism?  I thought you were all about turning swords into plough shares.  Just sayin’

[John PhillipSpectator]

Simon Paynton wrote:

@johnphillip – I do agree that Richard Dawkins pretty much talks junk on the subject of religion. “You won’t be so smartass when you face the Maker of Heaven and Earth.” – have you heard this saying? “You can tell the size of a man by the size of the thing that makes him mad.” – Adlai Stevenson II (1900-1965) In other words, it’s not plausible that God would give a flying f*** that Strega said that. I’m pretty sure He would be able to rise above it; in fact, it would probably make Him chuckle.

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Have you heard this saying, “Be still and know that I am God.”?

Mankind’s greatest obligation is to worship God, our Maker.  Mocking and ridiculing our Maker, along with all who do worship Him will hardly make anyone except you “brights” “chuckle.”  I don’t think you even chuckle at your venerable moderator’s pathetic spelling.

[_Robert_Participant]

John…please understand that an “argument from ignorance” is the classic argument that that says …because we do not know the cause of something that god did. Then re-read your misplaced response.

[John PhillipSpectator]

Simon Paynton wrote:

@john Phillip – “Let him who hath no sword sell his garment and buy one.” – what’s that now? Terrorism? I thought you were all about turning swords into plough (sic) (plow) shares. Just sayin’ (very ignorantly).

Swords are used for fighting, not “ploughing.”  I have exchanged numerous emails with the infamous Richard Dawkins over the onslaught of errors and ignorance in his books.  I’m quite accustomed to fighting with atheists, only to watch as you stumble and make fools of yourselves, all the while pretending to be as you claim, “brights.”  Not so much.  Like you, Dawkins trips and stumbles and in the end, simply blathers out his own intellectualism, rather than really proving it.  He botches even simple statistics.

[John PhillipSpectator]

_Robert_ wrote:

John…please understand that an “argument from ignorance” is the classic argument that that says …because we do not know the cause of something that god did. Then re-read your misplaced response.

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No it is not that at all.  It is the condescending implication, the pretense, the laughing, guffawing haw haw of “We’re smarter than you so shut the hell up”.   Christians cite design, statistics, facts and observations, and the common response is “the argument from incredulity” or in other words, you don’t understand it, you’re ignorant, you lose, we know it all.

SCIENTISTS are incredulous at discoveries, and always have been, before, during, and after their discoveries.  They are HARDLY guilty of the argument from incredulity, at which you and your fellow  misspelling “brights” can giggle and point.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

@john Phillip – but you said, if someone hasn’t got a sword, they need to go and get one by any means necessary.  That’s militaristic language, don’t you agree?  You’re saying, you have to go and buy a sword.  Go and buy a sword.  Swords are for killing people.  I don’t understand your argument.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

I’m not sure if you’re actually drunk?  Or mentally ill?  That’s how it looks.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

“Mankind’s greatest obligation is to worship God, our Maker.”

– yes, but people are also allowed to have a laugh.  I’m sure that God doesn’t actually require that people kiss His ass every second of the day, otherwise they’re going to hell.  That would make God pretty immature and kind of loopy.

[John PhillipSpectator]

Simon Paynton wrote:

@john Phillip – but you said, if someone hasn’t got a sword, they need to go and get one by any means necessary. That’s militaristic language, don’t you agree? You’re saying, you have to go and buy a sword. Go and buy a sword. Swords are for killing people. I don’t understand your argument.

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“Go and get one (sword) by any means necessary” is your language, NOT mine, NOT the Bible’s.

You misquote and then misconstrue based on your own misunderstanding.  Then you follow up with more insults.  How typical.  If this forum has an Ignore List, you will be the first one I add to mine.

If it does not, I will endeavor to never read nor respond again to anything you write.  You’re not worth five seconds more of my time.

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

OK.  I was hoping you might be making sense.  This was my day: I don’t know about you …

[Simon PayntonParticipant]

I’m bored now.

[_Robert_Participant]

@john Phillip, Nice complex you have going on, but don’t worry the end is near. “The yearning for it all to end” as Hitchens says. There is a street corner for you I am sure; but this is not it.

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