Who says we're the only ones with compassion for other species?

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Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

I tried a few hours ago Will check my mod rights as I used to edit things like this on TA – (without mentioning it). Not as the grammar police but because many readers don’t primarily speak \ read English.

On TA the author could edit the title. Can’t do it here, though?

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Belle Rose wrote:

We are all connected. All of life on earth really is related

You’re sounding awfully New Agey, there.

On one of the nature channels there was the strange story of a leopard who “adopted” a baby baboon, keeping it around after eating its mother. However, he didn’t feed it or take care of it in any wahy and after a few days he killed it.

Mostly, nature is about living and being killed rather than living and dying. Most animals don’t die with friends and relatives by their side as they pass on. If they aren’t eaten alive, they die a lonely and painful death.

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@unseen it’s not “new agey!” our DNA has evolved as such…all life evolved from DNA. There is nothing “new agey” about that 😉

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@unseen wrote, “Mostly, nature is about living and being killed rather than living and dying. Most animals don’t die with friends and relatives by their side as they pass on. If they aren’t eaten alive, they die a lonely and painful death.”

– so that’s another reason why we’re all connected. All life contains a multitude of processes, structures and experiences in common.

It’s true that some animals are pests, like cane toads in Australia, so it’s sensible to try and wipe them out. Just because lions kill baby elephants, however, is no reason to shoot them.

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The worse part about the fate of ‘Cecil the Lion’ is that his new cubs will most likely be killed by the next alpha unless another male decides to protect them.

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Belle Rose wrote:

@unseen it’s not “new agey!” our DNA has evolved as such…all life evolved from DNA. There is nothing “new agey” about that ?

It sounds New Agey and unless you’re stating it in its most obvious and humdrum sense, it begins to get into that New Agey way of looking at things. Obviously, we are all connected on some level in the same way we’re all related to each other in trivial ways. For example, if you’re up in the Seattle area and I’m in the Portland area, I’m related to you by being South of you. On some level, we’re all geneticall-related to pond scum.

So, take it beyond “We’re all connected.” What do you want to say next that doesn’t sound starry-eyed and New Agey?

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_Robert_ wrote:

The worse part about the fate of ‘Cecil the Lion’ is that his new cubs will most likely be killed by the next alpha unless another male decides to protect them.

Cecil’s brother is still with the pride and the cubs are not very young, so they have a pretty good chance of not meeting that fate.

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Simon Paynton wrote:

@unseen wrote, “Mostly, nature is about living and being killed rather than living and dying. Most animals don’t die with friends and relatives by their side as they pass on. If they aren’t eaten alive, they die a lonely and painful death.”

– so that’s another reason why we’re all connected. All life contains a multitude of processes, structures and experiences in common.

It’s true that some animals are pests, like cane toads in Australia, so it’s sensible to try and wipe them out. Just because lions kill baby elephants, however, is no reason to shoot them.

We humans often do die with your friends and relatives at our side. Elephants, dogs, and a few other animals seem to have that sort of empathy, but in nature it’s pretty rare.

Often, when man decides an animal is a pest and tries to do something about it, we just f**k things up even more. Australia is rife with such ill-fated attempts to control an out of control species by introducing another species that didn’t evolve there.

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There are many animals that do mourn the dying. They don’t go buy a coffin and have a funeral, but that sentiment is definitely there…I think humans think too highly of ourselves and think we are “over” everything because of the Bible’s bullshit about reigning over the animals. When it really comes down to it we’re just as vulnerable as we ever were. We have the illusion of safety with the civilization our tools have built us, but it is still that – an illusion. We are one large natural disaster or virus, or famine away from being exposes for the helpless stupid creatures that we are at any given moment. And we continue to trash the planet like we own the place without any regard for what we are destroying.

Sorry…my rant is done.

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