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  • jakelafort posted an update 7 years ago

    Robert, Trump was JUST making a deal?

    Was he JUST selling the Kurds down the river? Was he JUST not paying his workers? Was he JUST taking a boat load of money fraudulently at his university? Was he JUST questioning Obama’s citizenship? Was he JUST grabbing those women by the pussy? Was he JUST casually observing a truism in regards to Mexicans that they are rapists and murderers? The list of unjust justs JUST keeps going.

    How stupid dya suppose he is? I think he would be incapable of practicing law, or virtually any profession that requires a modicum of reasoning. But i damn sure don’t think he is so stupid that he was JUST making a deal.

    • He sees himself as the ultimate deal maker (authored books on the topic) and freely admits what he has done, too stupid to comprehend the responsibility and implications of his position. I am sure all of relationships are deals to him as well.

      • Sorry, i can’t post properly bcoz i am not in sunday school.
        Anyways i am not famiiar with his book(s). But it is funny that a guy who bragged of never having read a book would write a book.

        What undermines the assertion of his lacking awareness is his consistent MO of concealing, lying, attacking to promote his interests and protect his reputation and legal standing. A person lacking awareness will be lacking in those strategies.

        • Was just listening to Ambassador Taylor testify. Trump had an official and unofficial channel to further policy toward Ukraine. According to the testimony Trump insisted that it be known that there is no quid pro quo. At same time the policy was clear…do my bidding or go fuck yourself..ya aint getting the aid. That use of language suggests Trump was attempting to protect himself. He was not simply acting beyond the scope of his presidency in making a self-serving deal.
        • You may want to post properly so that users can see the original context.
          • “I am sure all of relationships are deals to him as well.” I’ve sometimes heard it said that he takes a transactional approach to relationships.
            • D replied 7 years ago
              No Trump was going along with the plan and then one day he just went: okay now we are going to do this cause I want to achieve a new result with Turkey cause we have some unrelated problem and this will solve it so we will do that and things will be fine and thats what I gotta do. (Yeah but Mr. President if we do that then it will be difficult to find new allies in the future to trust…) No no no. I know what I’m doing. That’s what we are doing.

              And then the repercussions happen and Trump does minor damage control. And the rest of the world has to clean up the mess. To assume he had a long term plan or a complex plan in the making is to give him way too much credit.

                • Davis, i agree that Trump acts out of impulse. I like the metaphor that Sam Harris used of Trump and air escaping a balloon causing the balloon to fly wily nilly.

                  But in the most recent debacle he wanted to get dirt on his perceived rival. He set in a motion a plot to execute his will under the leadership of his private attorney. I would not call it a complex plan. But it was a plan or a plot. Whether it was Trump’s plan to refuse a meeting/aid or his underling(s) i can’t say. That will likely be made known shortly. On the other hand if you are talking about the withdrawal of troops from Syria/abandoning Kurds i agree with you.