Thy Plague Doctor

PopeBeanie wrote:
They are not subject to the same, ongoing type of psychic tortures as are humans in society.

Internalising pain has a spectrum of definitions. At its broadest its the phenomena of relating your pain through time (history of events for example), self-awareness (possible future problems, similarity to other experienced emoti…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
Davis, i think you assume way too much in the way you separate us from other animals

You need a minimal level of cognitive functions to internalize pain and you need to have a long list of such functions and a very high level of such functions. I’m basing this on what I’ve read (though I admit it was 8 years ago, a lot changes…[Read more]

Earle Sanborn wrote:
Davis, Pope Beanie, et all. It’s not helpful and pretty discourteous to compare a “Creationist with a bowling ball” for discussion purpose.

It is when you are flagrantly ignoring the rules of this forum

I’m pretty certain we each have our own histories, challenges, wishes, wants, needs, and desires, in our never ending…

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Earle Sanborn wrote:
Gents, got the message

Earl if you got the message, then you would also start dealing with all of our replies to your fake science and badly interpreted science. That isn’t a bowling ball..it is a ball of bullshit, no, a ball of verbal diarrhea.

Imagine if I went to a Christian forum and wrote a 10 paragraph long post full…[Read more]

Earle Sanborn wrote:
Ladies and Gents, real science has come a long way from Darwin’s time

Earl. You’ve been repeatedly called out for cut and paste trolling, making contentious claims and ignoring our responses and for proselytizing. Respect the rules of this forum and the principles of rational debate…or get the hell out of here.

Simon, I clearly claimed several times here that mammals for example are emotional like us to some extent and they feel distress and have unpleasant experiences.

Mammals do feel emotion, we are mammals ourselves and our emotions come from the same development of other mammals. However, humans are unique in that we internalise our emotions.…[Read more]

I think humans have the right to assume they are special. They are the only species which suffer internalized pain and who are self aware AND able to express it to one another, who self realise and who can ponder their own existence (human existence) even if it’s often pointless. Because if it’s true, then they are also the only species in which a…[Read more]

No I don’t think I’d be happy to eat anything that I’d endowed with a personality.

Earle, did you come to Atheist Zone to convert us to your religion?  What on earth was the purpose of that huge cut and paste job?

In fact, almost none of our typical claims is in itself justification for denying God:

Nature is extremely cruel and suffering is common:

There still could be a God. It’s just an asshole of a God.

Religious institutions do horrible violent cruel things

Since God is an asshole…is that really a surprise?

Christians preach against one cruel thing…

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No Earl that’s not how critical discussion s work here. Don’t type out an enormous list of contentious claims…ignore the numerous cases of people responding to your claims and then type out yet another pile of questionable claims. Deal with our challenges to your original thread first. Return the respect for the users here who took time to read…[Read more]