• tom sarbeck posted an update in the group Group logo of Science -- the kind that requires evidence and reason.Science — the kind that requires evidence and reason. 9 months, 2 weeks ago

    Neil deGrasse Tyson opens the first chapter of his book “Astrophysics for People in a Hurry” with:
    “In the beginning, nearly 14 billion years ago, all the space and all the matter and all the energy of the known universe was contained in a volume less than one trillionth the size of the period that ends this sentence.”

    I don’t see that as evidence. Do you?


    • Hi Tom,

      “I don’t see that as evidence. Do you?”

      No. In itself it’s not purported to be evidence – it’s a statement of fact. I’m confident that NGT would love for you (or anyone else) to challenge the evidence behind this statement. As I’m not physicist of or a cosmologist I’m not going to waste my time trying. At this point it’s a matter of trust. Based upon what I’ve seen of his work and his commitment to scientific method, I don’t see him making statements which he could not substantiate were he asked. If you combine his work with that of other renowned physicists and cosmologists, I believe you would find almost universal agreement.

      I don’t see ANY of the above as “evidence” – just trust.

    • I’m not a diehard banger. It’s just that they seem to have the best ideas for what to research next in the quest to understand the univers, and a large enough community willing to spend time on it and try to educate us. I can’t even get straight talk from you about what kind of research you think the scientific community should work on next. All I hear is that it’s some kind of closed-club conspiracy full of selfish, bad actors. It sounds like how my father talks about climate scientists, and he’s still in denial about the north pole melting and how much water’s held frozen in antarctica, getting ready to raise sea level. “It’s just a bunch of climate scientists trying to stay employed.”

      • Take a cue from your father, PB.
        The Bang is a bunch of math-inclined folk who, to keep their taxpayer funding, are using a Genesis-like origin story to win allies in Congress.