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TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Sunday School October 11th 2026 in the forum
Sunday School 1 week, 6 days agoReg, Jake, Simon, and Fellow Unbelievers:
To expect AI to practice Philosophical thought and to act ethically first requires creators and owners who do the same. For once, here’s some words from both the “Godfather” of AI and from a AI component manufacturer.
AI godfather Geoffrey Hinton: ‘We’re creating alien beings. I’m willing to be selfi…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School October 11th 2026 in the forum
Sunday School 2 weeks agoReg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
What do you mean by “thorough and satisfactorily.” How do you determine it is satisfactory. What makes your interpretation of human behavior better than another? Those questions involve reasoning about evidence, explanatory adequacy and competing hypotheses.A good example is conceptions of fairness, how it evo…[Read more]
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TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Sunday School October 11th 2026 in the forum
Sunday School 2 weeks agoReg:
Sorry, I meant Thomas Nagel. But while I’m thinking of it, “What is it like for Earnest Nagel to be Thomas Nagel?”
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TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Sunday School October 11th 2026 in the forum
Sunday School 2 weeks agoReg, Simon, and Jake:
“Mister Earnest Nagel, call your office! A bat,a bee, and a flying squirrel are waiting on the Party Line! The flying squirrel says: ‘Again?'”
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Reg the Fronkey Farmer replied to the topic Sunday School October 11th 2026 in the forum
Sunday School 2 weeks agoIf the philosophy is descriptive, then the main question is whether the description is accurate, not whether the describer has personally lived the experience. You cannot fully know what it is like to be another human being either. Even a complete objective description of a bat’s physiology and behavior will likely fail to capture what being that…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School October 11th 2026 in the forum
Sunday School 2 weeks agoBut an AI machine will never know what it’s like to be any human. At least I know what it’s like to be one.
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School October 11th 2026 in the forum
Sunday School 2 weeks, 1 day agoIDK Simon.
You can tell us what it is like to be you. How much differently you feel after someone you love dies, after your bet loses, been informed you have a horrible disease, your friend is getting married. But you can’t tell what is like to be another human any better than an lLM. If anything LLM’s are better situated to do so. They interact…[Read more]
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jakelafort replied to the topic Sunday School October 11th 2026 in the forum
Sunday School 2 weeks, 1 day agoThe Oxford article is good.
Here is the one part i take exception. “They cannot, by themselves, tell us whether those answers are well founded, ethically defensible, historically informed, or rhetorically misleading.”
There are or will be millions of agents and ideally they will train children to be skeptical and acute. Yea i know that is a…[Read more]
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TheEncogitationer replied to the topic The Mystery Science Theater 3000 Thread in the forum Small Talk 2 weeks, 1 day ago
Fellow Unbelievers:
This episode of Mystery Science Theater 3000 riffs a movie about a group sorely needed nowadays: The Quest of the Delta Knights.
Before the movie, Mike sends Crow out of the Satellite Of Love to clean the gutters and Crow gets caught in a hail storm. GPC (née Gypsy) gives Mike a loaner Crow until Crow gets back. Mad…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Sunday School October 11th 2026 in the forum
Sunday School 2 weeks, 1 day agoLLMs will never be able to tell us what it’s like to be human. The philosophy I do is all descriptive, so it means reporting on what humans do and how they think, and painting a picture that purports to be factual. The only checking required is that the arguments are thorough, that they answer questions satisfactorily, and that they’re c…[Read more]
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