Attn Vegans, that tomato is saying "Don't eat me!"

[Belle RoseParticipant]

@Enco unfortunately not 🙁 she’s malingering her way towards dismissal and they’re falling for it 🙁

[_Robert_Participant]

TheEncogitationer wrote:

Robert, The Japanese did that with tomatoes because their island nation is rocky with few natural resources. So they have get as much out of what they have as possible. And their swordcraft of flipping the steel on itself 30,000 times is what makes the Samuai Sword so strong and sharp.

At least when they beheaded prisoners of war it was fast, maybe. Nothing a good nuking or two couldn’t fix. I see they are slowly gearing up, again. Yeah, China is right there.  The memory of war barely lasts a single generation. We are one fucking stupid species.

[unapologeticParticipant]

WE did not bite and claw our way to the top of the food chain just to eat the same stuff our pray eats. 

Other critters used us as food for millennia. Now it’s our turn.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Jake,

While I’m not a “Blue Eyed Samurai,” I am a “Round Eye Ronin and Gajin” who admires technical prowess from anybody and any source and I seek it’s friendly application for self-defence and peaceful utility.

Which dope shit are you talking about? The Guy Clark video? Yeah, he’s something. Country music isn’t my favorite but it always make the funniest novelty songs! 🤠

[jakelafortParticipant]

Enco, it is an animated series on Netflix. Not sure where else you can find it.

[jakelafortParticipant]

WE did not bite and claw our way to the top of the food chain just to eat the same stuff our pray eats.

Other critters used us as food for millennia. Now it’s our turn.

Here is your morality. Ethical systems?

The catch-all of manifest destiny aka might makes right with some flimsy mythological pretext as a justification. Billions of animals slaughtered each year and living unspeakably horrific lives before their individual final solutions. And while religion depicts such exploitation as kosher we almost ALL OF US have seen the depth, intelligence, and emotions of our friends we call pets. So there is really no excuse for the disconnect.

I suppose in the same way that the vast majority who were not slaves did not/could not see how wrong slavery was so it is with factory farming. And that is another reason moral systems are BS. Our mores are governed by our environment. No matter how fucking cruel and degenerate from the Japanese in WW2 to the Jihad mother fuckers of today and countless examples in between. Nobody is home.

And vegans often turn into fucking religious nuts with their own BS. No honey? WTF Is there any human endeavor that is exempt from the religionization of ideas?

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Robert,

Emperor Hirohito’s warriors also ably used these sharp Samurai swords for Seppuku or Hirakiri when they brought “dishonor” to themselves or their Emperor. It was also portrayed as occurring in earlier Japanese history on the mini-series for James Clavell’s novel Shogun..

This feature of an “Honor Culture” at least saved their enemies the grisly task.

Part of our species is indeed fucked up, and the rest of us have to keep an eye out and gird up to be ready for them. Hence, contrary to Isaiah 2:4, humans have to study war and it’s weaponry in order to avoid it when we can and use it and win it when we must.

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[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Unseen,

That guy Dr. Ken Berry is an idiot.

I love meat, milk, and eggs as much as this fellow, but these all depend upon plants for their nutrition and depend upon plants to be palpable!

You gotta have the weed known as Mesquite and/or the wood from Hickory, Maple, and Applewood to make a good smoked bacon or a melt-in-your-mouth beef brisket!

And you need things like Pineapple for ham or Ginger in Jamaican Jerk seasoning to make meat mouth-watering good!
Papaya is in Adolph’s Meat Tenderizer! (One of the few accepted uses of that name, and even then, the spelling is different. 🙇🏻‍♂️)

And A-1 Steak Sauce has tomatoes, orange peels, and vinegar from apple juice and is the perfect addition to your hamburger…”Because what is hamburger? Chopped ham? No, it’s chopped steak! And what’s better on steak than A-1?”

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7B11MuXZIJ0

Also, I’ve recently found that Bell Peppers are a great lower-carb vehicle for serving Pizza’s sauce, meats, peppers, onions, cheese and fixings, Philly Cheesesteaks, Cheeseburgers, and Western Omelets! They have served to get the weight from the Holidays off my gut and I’m sticking with Bell Peppers over buns and pizza crusts!

And while we do consume more carbs than we should, it’s not healthy to totally give up carbs either. Yes, protein and fat can provide glucose instead of carbs, but doing this diverts protein and fat from other functions like body strength and cushioning of the body from injury.

I’ve said it before and it bears repeating: Anybody who advocates giving up whole food groups ain’t right, in thought or word or deed!

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[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

I think my tomato plants are sensitive too.

[unapologeticParticipant]

Somebody needs to grow a sense of humor.

[jakelafortParticipant]

My sense of humor is dope as a mutha fucker.

I did not pick up on those vibes. If that is the case cool beans. Regardless, it is a wonderful encapsulation of reality among us hairy apes.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Belle Rose,

Sorry to hear about that. Keep up the good fight to keep thuggery from both yourself and the streets at large and please keep us informed.

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Reg,

I’m m having a problem embedding videos on the Forum. Sometimes they show up as visible as your picture, sometimes they only show up as the link.

What’s happening? Is some AI engaging in use of your pictured Whacky Tabbacky?
🤖🌿

[TheEncogitationerParticipant]

Jake,

The catch-all of manifest destiny aka might makes right with some flimsy mythological pretext as a justification. Billions of animals slaughtered each year and living unspeakably horrific lives before their individual final solutions. And while religion depicts such exploitation as kosher we almost ALL OF US have seen the depth, intelligence, and emotions of our friends we call pets. So there is really no excuse for the disconnect.

Now, Jake, are you one of the PETA freaks who equate owning pets with chattel African slavery and equate slaughtering chickens with The Holocaust?

If so, doesn’t this trivialize and undermine your pull-no-punches, morally resolute stand against oppression and genocide exemplified by your stance in defense of Israel against attack by Islamofascists and deranged “Progressive” Leftists?

[UnseenParticipant]

“Radicals aren’t as interested in the success of whatever cause they choose to promote as they are in keeping their own hands clean” is something a sociology prof said when I was in college. Look around, it’s true. Left and right radicals with no hope of success without compromising refuse to do what it takes to secure an incremental win for their cause. Why? Because they don’t want any blood on their hands.

Vegans more than vegetarians base their arguments on the welfare of animals. Cows, pigs, chickens, etc., are visible and easy to relate to vs. field mice, voles, moles, rabbits, snakes and lizards and the animals that depend upon them for sustenance. And so, for them, it’s all about the cows, pigs, chickens, etc., that people eat, and not about the welfare of field mice, voles, moles, rabbits, snakes and lizards and so on.

Foxes, badgers, coyotes, bobcats, and a variety of hawks, live in an ecosystem that depends upon small animals to sustain their populations.

To really keep their hands clean regarding animals , they would have to devise a method of raising food off the ground and probably indoors in hothouse situations. Can you even imagine growing wheat and corn indoors in hothouses?

BTW, growing vegetation on an industrial scale inevitably involves two other bad things: 1) species monoculture and 2) fertilizer.

I imagine a lot of vegans also belong to PETA, an organization that CLAIMS to care about animals and yet, it kills cats and dogs in large numbers because they don’t believe in pets. That’s right. That dog sleeping next to your slippered feet or cat curled up next to you on the couch is actually a slave, robbed of its natural life of hunting and being hunted and, if not dying in the jaws of a larger or more capable predator, of dying in agony from some disease or parasite.

They will form a so-called animal “shelter” and rather than seeking to find owners or rehome the animals, euthanize 70%-95% of them. They have used patrols to find pets running free, which they kidnap to take to one of their “shelters” and have even been found to have stolen family pets off the family’s property in order to process them. They have been sued successfully and had to pay state fines for their aggressively anti-pet practices.

Nice folks, those PETA people. And if you’re a vegan, why aren’t you “nice,” too?

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