IS CHRISTMAS AND OTHER THINGS FROM EMPEROR CONSTANTINE BIBLICAL?

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    michael17
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    Did the Jews celebrate birthdays? No
    Is there a tradition of celebrating Christ’s Birthday in scriptures? No, but in the very day he was born the heavens rejoiced!. We have an approximate season when he was born, but it did not correspond to the winter solstice as with the Babylonian/ Roman God, but clearly the Roman Emperor Constantine, introduced a Roman version of Christianity that included:
    Celebrating Christ’s birthday, and coinciding with birthdays of pagan gods.

    And  unsupported in scripture, God is a Triune of beings as with the Asiatic and Egyptian gods. But Christ had a indistinguishable preexistence as God’s Word even as we preexist as seed of our fathers until conception. This is why Gods Word is referred to as “Imperishable seed”, in scriptures. And this is how Levi tithed unto Melchizedek, the high priest of Salem, being in the loins of his father Abraham ( read Hebrews in the New Testament)
    . Yet Christ had a conscience pre-birth, eternal in the Word of God and through whom the worlds were made. And thought we are flesh, if your name is written in the book of life, you shall also receive a spiritual birth in addition to your fleshly birth as Christ promised in the the book of John, in his conversation with Nicodemus, the second birth.
    The Trinity is not found in scripture but was introduced in the fourth century by the Roman Empire Constantine through his bishops.
    Constantine himself was a pagan, who made Sunday a day of worship as with the Roman worship of the Sun on that day.

    He instituted Christ dying on Friday and rising on Sunday, while this is fictitious. He died on the Jewish Passover, in the middle of the week in the evening and rose three evenings and mornings later. This is why, he is our Passover sacrifice.

    Constantine has Christ dying on a T shape where as in the original Greek scripture, it’s a simple stake or pole also referred to as a tree, to fulfill the prophecy. “cursed is everyone that dies in a tree”. Christ was cursed that we
    may live. Surely this righteous man suffered the contradiction of sinners that we may have eternal life,
    Church steeples are obelisk forms as with the obelisk in Rome in Saint Peter’s square. but that is an actual Egyptian obelisk with Constantine’s cross on it which is ancient symbol of the Egyptian/ Babylonian god Tammuz.

    The Roman Empire completely perverted true Christianity. Constantine was a Beast, thinking himself to change Laws and Days, in fulfillment of the prophecy of the book of Daniel as with all the seven beastly dynasties of tbe Roman Empire,
    This is also the the seven headed beast of the book of the Revelation and is the beast to come in the future with tbe mark of his name 666.

    So this is why Christmas is more about me and my family rather than the poor, the sick and the homeless person . It is a commercial enterprise to give gifts to friends and family, all about you and yours. A Roman Holiday thanks to a Roman beast. But we are born into this tradition and thus have not sinned. But it does not make any thing alive as the Gospel or the good news of Christ.

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    #40348

    _Robert_
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    Is that a cut and paste job? I prefer Harry Potter when it comes to nonsensical magic. Even the worst of those characters are more interesting that biblical drivel.

    #40351

    michael17
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    Is that a cut and paste job? I prefer Harry Potter when it comes to nonsensical magic. Even the worst of those characters are more interesting that biblical drive.

    Try googling the paragraphs. I’m afraid not

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    #40354

    jakelafort
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    Christmas cheer and Christ, hermeneutics and spice, an emetic for the peripatetic ascetic.

    #40357

    A Christian told me a few days ago that we celebrate the birth of “our lord” because he was born so that we might be saved. I said that I thought that we celebrate his death and resurrection at Easter so that we may be saved. He got all confused.

    #40358

    _Robert_
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    If @michael17 was born in India, he would be spouting nonsense about some Hindu monkey god. The religious never get how badly they are affected by cognitive dissonance. And since none of is true they can’t keep the stories straight, just like a liar.

    #40359

    jakelafort
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    I had a Hindu acquaintance who was earnestly describing the attributes of the monkey god and so very convicted in his beliefs.  It was only by virtue of biting my lip that i avoided laughing.

    #40364

    michael17
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    A Christian told me a few days ago that we celebrate the birth of “our lord” because he was born so that we might be saved. I said that I thought that we celebrate his death and resurrection at Easter so that we may be saved. He got all confused.

    Reg, you are more knowledgeable than billions professing to be  Christian but are in fact duped by the orthodoxy that Rome imposed.

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    #40365

    jakelafort
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    michael17…Reg, you are more knowledgeable than billions professing to be  Christian

    Just come right out and insult the guy, why don’t ya? Geesh.

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    michael17
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    #40374

    michael17
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    If @michael17 was born in India, he would be spouting nonsense about some Hindu monkey god. The religious never get how badly they are affected by cognitive dissonance. And since none of is true they can’t keep the stories straight, just like a liar.

     

    You know only pagan Christianity, and rightfully reject, but of truth you no little. Learn the truth before you cast it out with the pagans.

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    michael17
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    The traditional excuse is that Emperor Constantine was trying to  discourage paganism by christianizing its holidays.

    Instead he fabricated pagan Christianity better known as Orthodoxy; No raising of the dead , cleansing of the leper, healing the sick, just fake casting out of demons. Hence none of the signs of true Christianity

    #40383

    _Robert_
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    The traditional excuse is that Emperor Constantine was trying to discourage paganism by christianizing its holidays. Instead he fabricated pagan Christianity better known as Orthodoxy; No raising of the dead , cleansing of the leper, healing the sick, just fake casting out of demons. Hence none of the signs of true Christianity

    You got nothing but nonsense. You are a great ape, nothing more. There is no sin, no savior. Just like all the other believers in all the different “brands” of bullshit. Produce some real evidence (and there is none), else you are just proselytizing on an atheist forum. Another “true Scotsman”. It’s just ridiculous.

    #40384

    michael17
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    @robert

    Don’t fall into this trap,  Christian Rome martyred  the signs bearing  body of Christ in the name of  Orthodoxy and continued it with the inquisitions. Don’t let this murderer also kill more through your unbelief.

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    #40387

    TheEncogitationer
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    Michael17,

    IS CHRISTMAS AND OTHER THINGS FROM EMPEROR CONSTANTINE BIBLICAL?

    I’ll answer thusly: The mere words of either one man with a sword or the words of many in a book of Grim Fairy Tales does not make anything true or good.

    Speaking as a retail employee, I’ll say the whole Christmas Season is a whole lot of trouble for a God-Man who never existed. If peo people want to be generous to each other, let them stagger, scatter, smother, and cover it throughout the Year like Waffle House Hash Browns instead of concentrting all the Hell in one stomach-burning focal point in time.

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