The Republicans Want a Right-Wing Dictatorship

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  • #40367
    Unseen
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    No, Unseen, i agree that if the party that initiates the coup stays in power we won’t soon have a return to the constitution. But if the usurper is ousted then an immediate return is highly probable.

    That’s the big “if,” isn’t it. He may be “ousted” by someone even more depraved and repressive. Evangelical Christians have been quietly working on a takeover of their own and they already have several of their nominees sitting on The Supreme Court.

    #40368
    jakelafort
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    Very much related to the contemporary scene and our conversation is a new movie on Netflix. Don’t Look Up. I recommend it.

    #40376
    Unseen
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    Very much related to the contemporary scene and our conversation is a new movie on Netflix. Don’t Look Up. I recommend it.

    It’s on my watch list.

    #40433
    Unseen
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    Trump Aide Confesses Coup Plot with Bannon, Cruz, and 100 Congressional Co-Conspirators

    Trump cabinetmember Peter Navarro:

    “‘We spent a lot of time lining up over 100 congressmen, including some senators. It started out perfectly. At 1 p.m., Gosar and Cruz did exactly what was expected of them,’ Navarro told The Daily Beast. ‘It was a perfect plan. And it all predicated on peace and calm on Capitol Hill. We didn’t even need any protestors, because we had over 100 congressmen committed to it.'” […]

    “[T]heir hope was to run the clock as long as possible to increase public pressure on then-Vice President Mike Pence to send the electoral votes back to six contested states, where Republican-led legislatures could try to overturn the results. And in their mind, ramping up pressure on Pence would require media coverage.”

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    #40444
    jakelafort
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    If it is as it appears to the author of that article an open and shut case of a conspiracy to subvert democracy by rejecting the democratic results of the election and installing Trump then there must be consequences, right? If  the traitors in the conspiracy do not pay then there is an open invitation to take over the country.

    It is interesting after all of the speculation toward the end of Trump’s term concerning the various crimes for which he would be prosecuted and how he had to win or would end in jail and now he is continuing in his quest for power instead of defending his innocence.

    And what happened to CNN and MSNBC after droning on endlessly against their boogeyman Trump? I don’t follow em all that much any longer but when i look i don’t see stories about Trump and his accomplices or about the failure to prosecute and why? Isn’t it a perfect opp. for some real investigative journalism? And the kind of story that results will still fit the model. Something stinks in Denmark.

    #40650
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    #40841
    PopeBeanie
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    _Robert_ wrote: OK, so you are throw-in-the-towel, wimp-ass Democrats, LOL. What else is new. That’s why we lose. China, Russia? Give me a break. They have never known democracy.

    If you think we in the U.S. has experienced democracy, then here’s my point: More and more Americans are ready to get it up and line up behind an autocrat. Want to know why?

    (I thought Robert was talking about people choosing to expat their way out?)

    In any case, up against gerrymandering, legislation against ballot box access, skewed electoral college representation, and perhaps future SCOTUS decisions, we are swimming upstream. I wouldn’t use @Enco’s description of “death by a thousand cuts”, but perhaps “zombified by sudden, permanent government coup”.

    #40844
    PopeBeanie
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    You seem to trust absolutely that the military will stay within the guard rails, but if Gen. Flynn is any indication, there are some at or near the top willing to countenance a coup to return the country to their vision of America, even if it isn’t shared by the majority of Americans.

    I’m with Robert on this, and believe that the majority of generals in charge are not like Flynn, and would consider political acts against citizens as anti-American and/or extra-constitutional.

    But I don’t have the same confidence in all state militias.

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