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  • #47948

    Unseen
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    Don Lemon of CNN and Tucker Carlson of Fox both got their walking papers today. Don Lemon’s firing was almost a foregone conclusion, but Tucker Carlson parting ways with Fox was a shocker. Why did Fox pull that trigger?

    Some say it’s because he’s a major reason they lost a $780 million settlement with the Dominion voting machine company (with another $2.7 billion defamation suit from another voting machine maker, Smartmatic, waiting in the wings).

    There is another, possibly bigger, reason for dumping Carlson, and that’s because he’s been the only primetime personality on any mainstream network consistently taking antiwar stances, which makes him a liability in terms of their business model, which does NOT involve angering the military-industrial complex (M-IC).

    While the M-IC doesn’t directly control media (that I know of), they are always eager to sell military products and they sell best when they are being used up. And what uses those product most reliably? (I think you know.)

    Now, before a certain member accuses me of just shilling for MAGA and Q (neither of which, to my knowledge, is known for being against military spending), let me assure you that most of what Carlson stands for I repudiate.

    Speculation is rampant as to what Carlson will do now. Will he move to an even more conservative network like NewsMax or OAN? Well, not if he has a noncompetition agreement lasting some years. There may be ways to get around that, though. Prince, after all, when he changed labels, was prevented from producing music under his own name, so he changed his business name to a fanciful symbol and had himself referred to as “The Artist Formerly Known as Prince.” Could he become “The Political Commentator Formerly Known as Tucker Carlson”? As for the symbol, an up-arrow? A graphic based on his initials? I have no idea.

    But Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks raises another possibility: He could run as a populist presidential candidate. He’s one potential Republican who could probably blow Trump off the map.

    Anyway, interesting times. Do you have any thoughts on Tucker Carlson leaving Fox and what is next for him?

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    #47955

    PopeBeanie
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    Even as liberal as I am, I usually skip over TYT. I even skip over Maddow, as much as I like her. The only mocking I appreciate in these Trumpian times is against Trump, whom humanity needs to take down as low and as soon as possible.

    I haven’t watched enough CNN to know what Lemon’s been up to, but he didn’t strike me as a bad guy. I read that this is about ratings, but I dunno. I hope Tucker retires in Hungary.

    I also don’t generally speculate so soon before hearing more background on these oh-so-juicy, fresh stories.

    As one of several certain members, I trust you and am pretty sure it’s not about me!

    #47958

    I have stopped watching almost all American news channels, even when I am in the USA. The repetition of the long ad breaks bugs me. I do watch PBS clips when on a “coffee break” and I try to catch Brooks and Capehart when I have time.

    I am happy that Fox has gotten rid of its chief cub as now maybe some of his fans will start to figure out how dumb he has made them with his treasonous lies. I called him the ‘Foxic Tucker’.

    #47959

    Simon Paynton
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    #47966

    jakelafort
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    I don’t get cute in my name calling. It is just Tucker the Fucker or Fucker Tucker.

    Oh that smarmy and studied look of incredulity. Gonna miss that guy. Ya know we all fill a need when we find people we strongly dislike.

    #47967

    PopeBeanie
    Moderator

    Ya know we all fill a need when we find people we strongly dislike.

    That was true for me not long ago, but I just got tired of playing in Negative Land… and I quit Twitter, Facebook, et al. I was one of the first to get into Twitter, starting with the nickname “acme”. Lost it when a bank stepped in to claim it without my knowledge, after I stopped using it for a few years.

    I’m not complaining, I’m just trying not to swim with the flow.

    #47970

    TheEncogitationer
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    Unseen,

    Whether it’s Senator Paul Simon, Gummint Cheez promoter Matt Lesko, Bill Nye, Calypso Louis Farrakhan, George Will, Murray Rothbard, or now Tucker Carlson, the bow-tie is the insignia that says: “Something ratched this way comes”. Bonus points on ratchedness if it’s a clip-on bow-tie.

    🎀 🤢

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    #47973

    Unseen
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    I haven’t watched enough CNN to know what Lemon’s been up to, but he didn’t strike me as a bad guy.

    Here’s how Variety reported his behavior.

    #47974

    Unseen
    Participant

    More on the possibility that Tucker Carlson was fired for being antiwar:

    #48001

    RichRaelian
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    Hi! My mom watches him on TV a lot but I’am sure he’ll turn up somewhere eventually and besides my mom will miss him when he goes for sure.

    #48006

    Unseen
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    Tucker is confounding. He’s expressed racist views and views aligned with white supremacy on several occasions. He’s fairly openly opposed to accommodating LGBTQ+ folks at all. His anti-immigration views reek of racism. His conduct with women and underlings and especislly women who were underlings is reprehensible. He’s a shitty person and, worse, a privileged shitty person.

    Yet, he’s the one talk show host who would have the strongest antiwar voices on his show to express their antiwar views unchallenged. He didn’t have them on in order to try to make fools of them. Where are CNN, MSNBC, and the broadcast networks when it comes to giving the antiwar movement a voice? Nowhere to be found.

    He also was all for the Federal Government getting off Julian Assange’s back for just doing what we expect the best journalists to do: uncovering the government’s dirty laundry. They basically want to try him as a traitor to America. The problem: He’s not an American, he’s Australian.

    With Tucker gone, who is going to let the antiwar people speak and who is going to stand up for Julian Assange?

    #48019

    PopeBeanie
    Moderator

    With Tucker gone, who is going to let the antiwar people speak and who is going to stand up for Julian Assange?

    Aren’t there some pretty whacko people in Congress taking up this “anti-war” endeavor? I put that in quotes, because I think they’re more pro-Putin takeover than truly anti-war in the long run. Anyway, with Tucker gone, will his audience/minions just walk around lost until they come to their senses? I’ll bet they’re find him again, or a suitable replacement. Maybe Orban can buy up an American network or stream to his American fans?

    How about Democracy Now?

    Here’s a recent article with some insight and seemingly less speculation about Tucker’s departure, from WSJ:

    #48020

    I think he is going to help a lot of the lost men when he sets up his new TTT company.  What, you have not heard of  the Tucker Testicle Tanning venture?  Oh, I could fill this post with puns but its too easy just going for the low hanging fruit.

    #48023

    TheEncogitationer
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    Reg,

    Judging from that article, all Tucker Carlson is doing is condemning any man that follows his advice to a horrific death by testicular and penile cancer. Tanning in the Sun brings polyps and cancer to the rest of the body, so how is tanning the nuts any different?

    Even a spray-on tan makes the skin more at risk for cancer from UV rays, produces free radicals, and can produce an allergic reaction at the very least.

    Sunless Tanning–Wikipedia
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunless_tanning

    And he borrows from that damn stupid Bible verse Proverbs 27:17: “As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.”

    Uh, no. Steel sharpens Iron, Diamonds sharpen Steel, and a high-powered laser can cut through them all.

    I am certainly not sharper for having listened to Tucker Carlson’s junk science advice.

    His video trailer on Twitter says his special is called The End of Men. Following advice like his, it really would be The End of Men 💀

    For all of this and more, Tucker Carlson earns the Sanford Dummy Reel:

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    #48031

    Unseen
    Participant

    Aren’t there some pretty whacko people in Congress taking up this “anti-war” endeavor? I put that in quotes, because I think they’re more pro-Putin takeover than truly anti-war in the long run. Anyway, with Tucker gone, will his audience/minions just walk around lost until they come to their senses? I’ll bet they’re find him again, or a suitable replacement. Maybe Orban can buy up an American network or stream to his American fans?

    You could be a little more specific about these Congressmember taking on the antiwar cause. I do know that it’s NOT Bernie or The Squad, so who in the world doo you mean. None of those videos you shown represent the kind of mainstream news sources that the average middle-aged to elderly voter watches or listens to.

    So…what’s your point???

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