We need to know why Trump is so popular

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

Bannon and Trump knew how to work it, while the party supporting individual profit over public welfare became more selfish, and capitalized on some lucky breaks.

@popebeanie. I agree. Bannon was never going to become a politician but he could work the machinery in the background to help Trump on his path to power. Trump would not have the ability make it on his own.

I can now see them winning a second term. The appeasement party is flacid against them. The Dems might be angry but they seem prepared to take it some more.

They should act now and replace Biden. There will be a “Dembargo” (can’t remember who recently coined that) of campaign funding very soon unless he is replaced. Gretchen Whitmer, raise your hand if you are in the room. Did you really say ‘No’? You are not the distraction. Biden is.

[_Robert_Participant]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

Bannon and Trump knew how to work it, while the party supporting individual profit over public welfare became more selfish, and capitalized on some lucky breaks. @popebeanie. I agree. Bannon was never going to become a politician but he could work the machinery in the background to help Trump on his path to power. Trump would not have the ability make it on his own. I can now see them winning a second term. The appeasement party is flacid against them. The Dems might be angry but they seem prepared to take it some more. They should act now and replace Biden. There will be a “Dembargo” (can’t remember who recently coined that) of campaign funding very soon unless he is replaced. Gretchen Whitmer, raise your hand if you are in the room. Did you really say ‘No’? You are not the distraction. Biden is.

My hope is that most of the independent voters will now find the convicted criminal Trump to be a such a disgusting person as his own wife does, that they make efforts to cast their votes to the Dem, no matter who it is. A change this late, signals weakness and indecisiveness in the Dem party, could be a real turnoff for independent voters who may not go for a progressive at all. And RFK Jr, who knows what effect that insane weirdo will have. These few wavering voters in the swing states are the key demographic, Dems need to figure out what moves them and fast. I know my anti-Trump vote will not even count. We know who Biden is and what he stands for. Who know who Trump is and what he stands for. A bad night on a debate does not change that.

[jakelafortParticipant]

I agree with Robert that a debate is not going to change much. I don’t recall the political wise guy who has predicted so many outcomes of SCOTUS but my he thinks debates are not a significant factor. And we saw a guy i think in PA be elected to congress even though he could barely speak. Undermining the candidate by same party may be fatal though. No idea what precedent may exist for a change in candidate this late in the game. I don’t think such exists in US. But i think the Dems better get their act together and stop criticizing their own unless he privately agrees to step down yesterday. The republicans have stood behind Trump with a few major exceptions in spite of well you know…

I also agree that if replaced by a stupid lefty woke asshole that will move more independents to the right and could be fatal. Anyone who isn’t too enthralled with either political party may be more afraid of the left right now which is crazy but here we are.

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

Opinion piece by David Brooks in the NYT. The deep source of Trump’s appeal.

[_Robert_Participant]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

Opinion piece by David Brooks in the NYT. The deep source of Trump’s appeal.

Yes, and very disconcerting, to say the least.

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

……………A plurality of voters believe that Biden’s age is a bigger problem than Trump’s authoritarianism because they just don’t see the latter as that big a problem…………

[UnseenParticipant]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

……………A plurality of voters believe that Biden’s age is a bigger problem than Trump’s authoritarianism because they just don’t see the latter as that big a problem…………

Biden yesterday referred to Ukraine’s Zelenskyyy(yyy?) as Putin and his own Veep as Vice President Putin.

I used to worry about Trump having the nuclear “football” with him, but now…

Biden’s team is blaming “jet lag” (several days old) and suffering from a cold for his debate debacle, but what does that mean about his ability to lead the country and make key decisions when jet lagged or having the sniffles?

I can now understand why undecideds might opt for Trump, especially if they’re not very politically aware to start with (about Project 2025, for example).

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

You can read the Project 2025 document from a link to a pdf within this post from the BBC

[unapologeticParticipant]

What happens if one of the canidates steps down or dies just before the election?
Does the VP canidate run instead? Do they postpone the election? Does the other party win by default?
– asking for a friend.

[unapologeticParticipant]

For the record. I’m nowhere near Butler.

[UnseenParticipant]

unapologetic wrote:

What happens if one of the canidates steps down or dies just before the election? Does the VP canidate run instead? Do they postpone the election? Does the other party win by default? – asking for a friend.

Here’s what ChatGPT AI says happens:

If a candidate for President or Vice President steps down or dies just before the election, the situation would be handled according to the rules and procedures established by each state and the Constitution of the United States. Here are the general principles that would apply:

Replacement Candidate: If a candidate for President steps down or dies before the election, the political party of that candidate would typically choose a replacement nominee. The process for selecting a replacement candidate varies by party rules and state laws.

Vice Presidential Candidate: If a Vice Presidential candidate steps down or dies, the party may choose a new Vice Presidential candidate to run alongside the Presidential candidate. The procedures for this vary by party rules and state laws as well.

Postponement of the Election: Generally, elections are not postponed due to the withdrawal or death of a candidate. The election would proceed as scheduled, with the replacement candidate(s) stepping in.

Impact on Results: If a candidate dies before Election Day but after ballots have been printed and distributed, the ballots would likely still list the deceased candidate. In this case, votes cast for that candidate would be handled according to state laws, which may involve counting votes for the replacement candidate if the deceased candidate’s party names one.

Electoral College: The actual election for President and Vice President occurs through the Electoral College. If a candidate dies before the Electoral College meets to vote (typically in December following the November election), electors may be able to vote for the replacement candidate chosen by the party.

Constitutional Provisions: The Twentieth Amendment to the Constitution and relevant federal and state laws provide frameworks for handling these scenarios, ensuring that the election can proceed and the office can be filled.

In summary, the party of the candidate who withdraws or dies would typically choose a replacement nominee, and the election would proceed on schedule. The rules vary by state and party, but the election does not automatically default to the other party or get postponed due to such an event.

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