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    #31570

    Interesting discussion. “A pandemic of narcissism” is the correct term for the mass movement of these deluded cranks.

    It is the same when unqualified celebrities give unsolicited medical advice. It is almost always bogus and unscientific, like Reiki or TCM. They take center stage and the illness being discussed becomes the sideline story.

    I think their mindset is very similar to that of religious fundamentalists which are constructed upon years of confirmation bias and group polarization. No counter arguments will get a fair hearing because they already have their minds made up.

    I know a Professor of ENT who told me that patients, especially in the last few years,  tell him outright that he is wrong, that they know better or that they got different opinions from FB friends. He now asks them “So what are you doing in my surgery then”?

     “Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.”

    Charles Darwin wrote in The Descent of Man.

    The Dunning Kruger effect

     

    #31571

    Unseen
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    It is the same when unqualified celebrities give unsolicited medical advice. It is almost always bogus and unscientific, like Reiki or TCM. They take center stage and the illness being discussed becomes the sideline story.

    We have a White House “celebrity” who is probably the prime national example of this infestation.

    #31575

    It is even worse when people are given a platform to revel in their own ignorance of scientific matters and are then applauded by their audience of morons.

    #31666

    Ivy
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    This pandemic has revealed how absolutely and utterly stupid people are and that we are all going to die because of them 😂

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    jakelafort
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    Ivy, churches were way ahead of this pandemic in indicating how absolutely and utterly stupid people are. But not all of em…

    #31670

    You shouldn’t argue with stupid people. The best result, if you ever do so, is that you get to say that you won an argument with a stupid person.

    #31671

    Davis
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    Yeah Reg…but for every 9,999 arguments with a stupid person you’ll slightly change the point of view of 1 person. I’d say a 0.01% success rate makes all those hours of arguing with stupid dip-shits worth it!

    #31672

    Maybe, but I no longer do. I will explain my points but leave it at that. I tend to no longer explain Scientific subjects to theists. I just ask them to justify their own beliefs (a deliberate Socratic approach). When they eventually can’t they might have some doubts they want to consider. Then I will give them other options to think about.

    “I won’t wear a mask because Trump doesn’t”. Goodbye, I am no longer talking to you.

    #31673

    Ivy
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    @Reg

    “I won’t wear a mask because Trump doesn’t”. Goodbye, I am no longer talking to you.

    RIGHT? 😂

    #31674

    jakelafort
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    “I wont think for myself because my parents don’t, my friends don’t and the church tells me to have faith.” Therefore i am convinced of virgin birth and original sin.

    #31676

    Davis
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    Oh dear Reg. I think once again my sarcasm wasn’t brutal enough. I would say arguing with stupid people makes you even more stupid.

    #31677

    Ok, me stupid!

    #31678

    _Robert_
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    Ok, me stupid!

    Just put on a red MAGA hat. Suddenly you will know everything.

    #31679

    Just put on a red MAGA hat. Suddenly you will know everything.

    I am going to re-use that line a few times. Good one 🙂

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