Where We Could Go Without "Eternal Vigilance"

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  • #43649

    TheEncogitationer
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    Jake,

    I know I’m not, but what are you? 😜

    That’s quite a Universe you have there.

    First, an economic system that brings prosperity wherever and whenever and to the degree it is tried is called a “religion.”

    Then, it’s possible to oppose animal cruelty yet still bet your money on the Bobtail Nag.

    Now, opposing legally-enforced Snowflakery is somehow Snowflakery.

    That’s another reason you couldn’t be a comedian. To make comedy work, absurdity has to be the exception. In your Universe, absurdity is every minute and a comedian is just a newscaster.

    Just a little unsolicited free vocational guidance counselling.😁

    • This reply was modified 4 months, 4 weeks ago by  TheEncogitationer. Reason: In my Universe, big fingers don't work with little keyboards
    #43657

    jakelafort
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    Enco, it is your lucky day. Gonna let you count coup. However don’t take my charity as weakness or i will bludgeon you with a wooden club like some unfortunate seal pup.

    #43659

    Autumn
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    Now, opposing legally-enforced Snowflakery is somehow Snowflakery.

    There is a certain degree of predictability when it comes to mental health. In the same sense that hitting someone with your car may escape unharmed, but more likely will end up significantly injured or dead, certain actions or patterns of abusive behaviour will increase the odds of substantial stress, trauma, and mental illness.

    There is a question of how effective this Japanese law will be and how it balances with free speech. But one of the events pulling the desire for such a law into focus has nothing to do with anyone being a snowflake. Acting like it’s about snowflakes is a bit like someone able-bodied calling a paraplegic a snowflake because they refuse to use the stairs and take the elevator instead. It makes no sense. Or it’s like Christians who insist atheists actually do believe in their gods but have turned our backs on him. There’s an assumption that their experience of life transposes onto others, but those others had some moral failing where they did not.

    #43660

    jakelafort
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    From Autumn: There’s an assumption that their experience of life transposes onto others, but those others had some moral failing where they did not.

    Spot on.

    #43663

    Unseen
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    @Enco

    After attempting to steal the presidential election and fanning the flames of discord generally, I’m comfortable with Trump committing sepukku, aren’t you?

    #43667

    TheEncogitationer
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    Autumn,

    Auto accidents are not insults, targets of insults are not the physically infirm, and Atheists damn sure aren’t helpless victimes to be psychologized by Christians or anyone else.

    And whatever the cultural status of suicide in Japan (I grant you it may have changed over the years,) if it’s against the law to make insults, that would include it being against the law to insult those who would turn Japan back to the days of the Samurai, Kamakazi pilots, “Bringing The Eight Corners Of The World Under One Roof,” and good ol’ Buddheo-Shinto-ian values. *

    Without the ability to insult them, they may gain credence and power and then it may take war to stop them again.

    Insulting them is doing things the nice way without one-two punches of Plutonium. Roll with me here.

    *(Yeah, I know that’s not the actual term for Hirahitoism, but it’s fun to shoe-horn words and concepts together.)

    #43668

    TheEncogitationer
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    Unseen,

    Donald Trump is a big-pants adult person who can do what he wants.

    But seriously, everyone obsessed with getting Trump has spent the last 6 years doing more than what Boris and Natasha have tried to do to “Get Moose and Squirrel.”:

    And they still haven’t put Trump before a Grand Jury, put him on trial in person, convicted him. And put him in a cell for 99 to life!

    I would think you should want Donald Trump alive and miserable, so the fruits of your labor are on display.

    Hell, there’s not even a decent PornHub Russian hooker pee video to show for all this!

    If all this Trump Derangement Syndrome is still going on in Ray Kurzweil’s Singularity, I may not want to live to see The Singularity either.

    #43669

    TheEncogitationer
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    Jake,

    I am a man of even temper who can take all kinds of insults, but so you know: The quickest way to get libertarians’ ire is to say you’ll “let them” do something. Then they’ll do it just because and for spite.

    And how much range does an in-hand wooden club have against a rational animal capable of using killing instruments with multiple yard range and who could devise killing instruments with global range? Stick to National Lampoon-ery.

    #43670

    jakelafort
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    Enco, whachoo smokin man?

    What insult? I simply informed you that i would not reply. I would give a dog his day. The clubbing of seal metaphor was in reference to matters of intellect in which you are sadly deficient. It is amusing though how you imagine yourself a thinker inside that Rodin sculpture. All ideologues are intellectually limited.

    #43674

    Unseen
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    Donald Trump is a big-pants adult person who can do what he wants.

    Normally, we expect a “big-pants adult person” to behave like a level-headed adult and not a narcissistic and psychopathic kindergarten boy. That sort of individual would normally warrant fairly close supervision.

    Is it different in Enco World?

    #43677

    _Robert_
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    It is just a little entertaining to me how the altright.crypto.libertarians of the unregulated finance world are getting ripped off left and right in their so called “defi space”. I see their posts on twitter begging and pleading (to guys flying around in private jets) to get their money back after investing in non-fungible tokens represented by various monkey cartoons or the myriad of crypto coins. What could possibly go wrong?

    The domino effect of collapsing crypto firms who were only using their depositors’ money to speculate on continued appreciation, if not directly enrich the people orchestrating the thing, is going to continue. And now governments will start regulating crypto out of existence by requiring things like collateral for “stable”coins”, which are derivatives contracts by another name.

    A running tally of the trail of tears…Madoff was an amateur compared to this industry

    https://web3isgoinggreat.com/

    #43693

    Autumn
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    Autumn, Auto accidents are not insults, targets of insults are not the physically infirm,

    No one said they were.

    and Atheists damn sure aren’t helpless victimes to be psychologized by Christians or anyone else.

    No one said they were.

    And whatever the cultural status of suicide in Japan (I grant you it may have changed over the years,) if it’s against the law to make insults, that would include it being against the law to insult those who would turn Japan back to the days of the Samurai, Kamakazi pilots,

    It’s not clear what, specifically, is against the law. Usually you have to look at case law and jurisprudence to understand what the law means in practice. That said even if it were against the law to insult such people, it’s not against the law to criticize them or their positions.

    “Bringing The Eight Corners Of The World Under One Roof,” and good ol’ Buddheo-Shinto-ian values. * Without the ability to insult them, they may gain credence and power

    The major thing that turns me off of American style free-speech is that it abandons the importance of being able to convey any message or discuss any idea in favour of a ‘behave as shitty as you want with zero accountability’ culture. In the process, you’re losing what free speech most essentially protects. It’s just a sea of cacophonous fart noises.

    #43700

    TheEncogitationer
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    Unseen,

    In Enco World, which attempts to fully overlap with Objective Reality, the Bad Orange Man is gone and all the QAnon “bread crumbs” that said he would be back by August 2021 all got eaten by mold.

    If you can’t find something that puts the Bad Orange Man on trial before a Judge and Jury and behind bars, don’t bother the rest of us who are trying to carry on with the new daily doses of Fresh Hell.

    #43701

    TheEncogitationer
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    Autumn,

    You just said all of those things I said, so gainsaying does not cut it.

    And any slave can say only agreeable, nice things and any slave did throughout history.

    It is disagreement and dissent and exposing no-so-nice things that the right to freedom of expression is meant to protect.

    And it is not without “accountability” because it must be within the bound of other Individual Rights and others can always express contrary and contradictory viewpoints.

    #43702

    Autumn
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    What the fuck are you talking about?

    Disagreement and dissent are not tantamount to harassment, plain and simple. Regardless of whether the law against insults is or isn’t a good law in practice, it doesn’t remove any right to criticize or voice dissent.

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