To Do or not To Do

free speech as an absolute

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October 8, 2019 at 4:09 pm #28798

Davis
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Unfortunately a small number of people do have a hormonal imballance. It’s something they cannot help. To shame them would be like shaming gingers for having ginger hair. If you like doing that kind of thing, then go for it.

But trying to protect the feelings of someone who has no physical problem but overconsumes is ridiculous overreach. If we look at parallels you’ll see how absurd this could get. He is a terrible father if we cannot provide for his family after losing all his money to online-poker? Hey now…that is gambling shaming! He spends so much of his free time watching animal porn I really don’t think it’s healthy. Hey now…that’s porn-addiction shaming! My mother can be one of the most unpleasant bitches when she is loaded with anxiety (most of the time), she is incapable of relenting or leaving anyone in peace…when she leaves a room everyone sighs in relief. Hey now…that’s anxiety shaming! I think we will have to let go this employee, he’s addicted to morphine and I fear it could get out of control. Hey now, thats opiates-shaming! My friend likes ragaeton so much he plays it on his phone on the subway for everyone to hear, annoying the shit out of everyone because he doesn’t believe in headphones and thinks the whole world loves his music. Hey now…that’s annoying-shaming! My friend doesn’t wear deoderant and it gets so gross in the summer people stopped inviting him to BBQs. Hey now…that’s organic-living-shaming!

October 8, 2019 at 4:19 pm #28799

_Robert_
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Davis, I think you have hit on the second most important topic for improving our species, even if we differ on methods. The only thing more important than encouraging acceptance is our ecosystem. Unfortunately I am embarrassed by my country on both counts. It does not feel good to be an American right now. Go Greta 😉

October 8, 2019 at 4:38 pm #28800

Reg the Fronkey Farmer
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To shame them would be like shaming gingers for having ginger hair.

I agree but at least gingers have a support network.

Oh I hope nobody is offended by that 🙂

October 8, 2019 at 5:33 pm #28801

Davis
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October 8, 2019 at 6:47 pm #28802

Reg the Fronkey Farmer
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October 9, 2019 at 1:52 am #28804

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_Robert_ wrote:

I believe a business has the right to keep things businesslike.

Useless post. Is a gay flag over the doorway to the HR department businesslike? How about a daily bible verse on several office whiteboards. How about when all of your bosses discuss events at the same church or how about the Hispanic support network that has meetings during business hours. I don’t see what any of that has to do with engineering and producing reliable equipment for 737s. I am fine with all of that because of the sins of the past but none of is businesslike.

I don’t understand why you think any of that stuff is businesslike. Are you implying that I think it is?

October 9, 2019 at 10:49 am #28808

Davis
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A hispanic support group is not a particularly unbusiness like idea. If it helps integrate hispanic workers into the working enviroment, encourages inclusivity and comraderie…then that’s very good for the working enviroment and productivity. Same with a rainbow flag. Reducing a toxic atmosphere in general is extremely good business sense especially in a large office. I don’t see the problem with a bible quote if EVERYONE is a believer. However, I can’t think of any particular reason to put a religious quote on the wall, when you can find a perfectly good substitute that doesn’t create tensions between the people of different religions. If you want to express your religion you can wear a cross around your neck or put a Jesus doll on your desk.

October 9, 2019 at 5:49 pm #28811

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Davis wrote:

A hispanic support group is not a particularly unbusiness like idea. If it helps integrate hispanic workers into the working enviroment, encourages inclusivity and comraderie…then that’s very good for the working enviroment and productivity. Same with a rainbow flag. Reducing a toxic atmosphere in general is extremely good business sense especially in a large office. I don’t see the problem with a bible quote if EVERYONE is a believer. However, I can’t think of any particular reason to put a religious quote on the wall, when you can find a perfectly good substitute that doesn’t create tensions between the people of different religions. If you want to express your religion you can wear a cross around your neck or put a Jesus doll on your desk.

I believe a business has a right to require a businesslike atmosphere. And if that’a a value to them, they need to observe it, too.

A Hispanic support group can meet off premises on their own time, and probably should. If all else fails, workers who feel oppressed can always take extreme work actions like strikes…or work elsewhere.

October 14, 2019 at 9:13 pm #28878

_Robert_
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I was reading how at least 4 in 10 of young black men who die are murdered. It is the leading cause of death. It is taken to be normal. Thousands of times a day, radio station play songs that glorify murder. The musical and commercialized production of material that incites violence marches on. Why is this allowed? Is this covered under our right to free speech?

This young guy from down the road (XXX) predicted his death many times and yes he was shot to death, but he had hope.
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