Gavin Collins

  • Thomas Paine posted an update in the group Group logo of HumanismHumanism 9 hours, 53 minutes ago

    Okay, so it’s been 3.5 years since I was invited. Amazingly we have not all been carted off to an Evangelical reindoctrination camp., at least at this point.

  • I watch this show every morning I can. They promote themselves as an (if not “the”) alternative to the corporate media news sources on the one hand and the ultra-right/-left crazy sources on the other. He is if anything the more liberal member of the pair with a creative flair while she is more of a businessperson and ex-business/finance…[Read more]

  • Unfortunately, I am starting to think Unseen is right about a pending authoritarian takeover. I don’t have a fucking clue about what a solution would be. Lots of people must think they have very little to lose and much to gain by living under a racist, nationalist dictatorship. Again, I have no idea to see how they would b…

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  • Reg,

    Several big problems with this man’s thesis: The U.S. elected 45 Presidents under our existing Constitutional framework without a January 6th occurring after each Election.

    Also, even with The Supremes having a majority of “Conservative” Justices, they still didn’t want to hear any of Trump’s claims of voter fraud and didn’t want to…[Read more]

  • Unfortunately, I am starting to think Unseen is right about a pending authoritarian takeover. I don’t have a fucking clue about what a solution would be. Lots of people must think they have very little to lose and much to gain by living under a racist, nationalist dictatorship. Again, I have no idea to see how they would benefit.

  • Davis,

    One thing your Mother might not want to tell her friend is: “Oh, don’t worry!  Me and Ol’ Nick are just like this! *Crosses Fingers*” 🤞😁

    I sometimes tell that to customers whose total comes up to $6.66 or something added to that.  The reactions can be funny. 😁

  • I think it might be cruel for your mother to reject her friend.

    I believe that clinical depression is the source of the idea of hell for the human race.  It’s just a dark and horrifying corner of the human mind.

  • Davis replied to the topic Group logo of HumanismEmotional Blackmail in the forum Humanism 5 months, 1 week ago

    Hey Unseen,

    If it were I…then I would do that (I have super strict limits with people in general and religion is definitely one of them). My mother is French Canadian, they are INSANELY polite (as you may know). They have a pretty hard time confronting people with personal beliefs and emotionally difficult confrontation. But I would imagine at…[Read more]

  • Unseen replied to the topic Group logo of HumanismEmotional Blackmail in the forum Humanism 5 months, 1 week ago

    Your mother should just tell this lady “If we’re to be friends, consider this topic closed. What I believe is none of y9ur business as what you believe is none of mine. Bringing this up further threatens to destroy our friendship. I value it enough not to do that. Do you?”

  • _Robert_ replied to the topic Group logo of HumanismEmotional Blackmail in the forum Humanism 5 months, 1 week ago

    It is sad to imagine someone so tormented like that. She’s probably a caring person, if she is so concerned for the welfare of your mother.

    Around here churches and preachers push this fear of hell constantly and tell their flock to go save their friends, family, everyone from the punishment of their god. It’s an age-old r…[Read more]

  • It is sad to imagine someone so tormented like that.  She’s probably a caring person, if she is so concerned for the welfare of your mother.

  • Davis replied to the topic Group logo of HumanismEmotional Blackmail in the forum Humanism 5 months, 1 week ago

    It’s possible Simon. It could be something she had been worrying about and came to the surface or it could be a recent struggle with mental health or both. In any case it is quite sad.

  • If this person has suddenly “gone wrong”, it might not just be Covid related.  There might be some other underlying reason for it.  Clinical depression is full of visions of hell.

  • Davis replied to the topic Group logo of HumanismEmotional Blackmail in the forum Humanism 5 months, 1 week ago

    My parents are both virtually life long atheists. I believe they were baptised for social convenience but never attended weekly church or had any familiar religious activities. I was also baptised because their friends being my “god parents” meant so much to them. Apart from me visiting the church a couple times out of curiosity…that was also…[Read more]

  • PopeBeanie replied to the topic Group logo of HumanismEmotional Blackmail in the forum Humanism 5 months, 1 week ago

    Forgive me for assuming the possibilities, but two things come to mind when I hear that kind of story. One is that old age often brings with it various forms of mental deterioration where one loses a sense of recent memories and relies more on past memories in daily conversation. The other is a fear and obsession of one’s own impending death.

    In…[Read more]

  • Davis,

    Your Mother sounds pretty convinced and firm in her non-belief.  I doubt she could be “blackmailed” into belief,  but her friend is a mess.

    Did she know your Mom was a non-believer, then just out of nowhere get concerned that your Mom was going to Hell?  That would make no sense if she was firmly convinced in her beliefs.

  • _Robert_ replied to the topic Group logo of HumanismEmotional Blackmail in the forum Humanism 5 months, 1 week ago

    She isn’t mentally ill. Depressed, perhaps. I wouldn’t blame someone who honestly believes in hell for being terrified of a friend burning for eternity. Any caring person who honestly believed in this shit would be terribly upset about it. Hell is the most grotesque religious concept ever devised. It is what makes Christianity and…

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  • Davis replied to the topic Group logo of HumanismEmotional Blackmail in the forum Humanism 5 months, 1 week ago

    She isn’t mentally ill. Depressed, perhaps. I wouldn’t blame someone who honestly believes in hell for being terrified of a friend burning for eternity. Any caring person who honestly believed in this shit would be terribly upset about it. Hell is the most grotesque religious concept ever devised. It is what makes Christianity and Islam two of the…[Read more]

  • It sounds like the lady might be mentally ill in some way, maybe clinically depressed.

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