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Unseen, i simply made the assertion that other animals perceive beauty. A general comment or refrain..be wary of conceiving of homo sapiens as special creation. It is incongruous to on one hand see us as having evolved and having common ancestors with all other species and on the other to make the assumption that we are unique in a myriad of ways…[Read more]

Robert, there is no confusion. You have simply identified the biological basis for universality in humans perceiving  beauty in humans.  I have made the conjecture that beauty in nature and man-made is based on our innate sense of patterns and mathematical arrangements which are reflected in designs and colors.

https://www.thedodo.com/newman-the-pawcasso-1012546375.html Here ya go Unseen. There are other examples which are unmistakable, one of which i saw on tv, a dog that fetched household items and arranged in artistic ways.

Finally, someone who takes the question seriously as a philosophical question. says Unseen

Beyond our perception of beauty or…[Read more]

Fr: Psychology Today

Symmetric faces are construed as more beautiful than asymmetric faces in all cultures (irrespective of the race of the person being evaluated and the race of the evaluator). You can visit Bedouins in the Middle East, the Yanomamo in the Amazon, and Inuits in the Canadian north, and they will all agree as to who is or is not…[Read more]

Interesting song says Simon
Lucy says beauty/truth…truth beauty
some other says booty/truth…truth booty
another booty has a duty to tell the truth
and gets moody at the lack of truth in beauty
if Lucy should be dead
the truth that no one said
sing song of what we read
wont disguise the fraud in all we’ve said

Is beauty real?

We clearly perceive it. If one can see and fails to perceive it probably there is some neurological disorder in play or severe depression. We know in women that a particular ratio of hip to waist to breast is seen as most desirable. We know human faces have to have near symmetry but not perfect symmetry to be seen as attractive…[Read more]

Unseen, swinging and polyamory are different.

For you romance is an ardent and intense attraction. That seems a viable definition albeit subject to elaboration. Polyamorous have that with partners instead of a partner. I have little doubt that the psyche of those who opt for polyamory is atypical. Regardless of the arrangement any relationship…[Read more]

Unseen, i did not know that interesting/alarming stat. I betya polyamorous guys are not murdering their pregnant wives/gfs who have gotten pregnant by another. That is more evidence that polyamory is a better path for those with the right make-up. It is a bit more noble to be loved as a person as opposed to a sex object.

Unseen, your question leads to the need to define romance. Fuck, that is tougher than love. Seems more subjective to me..

But i just think polyamorous are able to somehow separate what would drive a stake through the heart of others. Perhaps they view sex the way you or i view an innocent hug. I have spoken to a few such people and they seem to…[Read more]

The biological baggage we mammals endure will be absent in the genesis of awareness in AI. Gives me hope that something closer to free will may emerge.

Do any of you know whether same/similar chemicals, hormones, parts of the brain, neural pathways, are in play during love, patriotism, religious devotion, and sports fanaticism? I am not aware…[Read more]

I suspect a proponent of polyamory will say that the exercise of power in a romantic relationship is the antithesis of love. Love elevates the romantic partner. It does not put her in shackles. Sex it will be said is a desire or need that is independent of the partner’s bond. Giving each other permission to have sex with others does nothing to…[Read more]

I will take it but i am gonna repurpose it as paroxysms of spasmodic cosmic love.

Not sure it can be characterized as dancing but some sort of spasmodic paroxysms of movement.

Thanks Jody

I think it is the first music vid i watched in its entirety.

Yes, that is true..parents for their kids.

Interesting take Unseen, bout power in polyamorous. I think polyamorous people would laugh at that notion.

Love is sharing half of your favorite meal. It is getting as much satisfaction from their pleasure as your own. It is feeling their pain…not running…doing utmost to relieve their pain. It is honesty except when honesty is on balance a bad decision. It is a form of intimacy in which you reveal things to the other you will not otherwise share.…[Read more]

And those same older men probably think Greta Thunberg is a bit too big for her britches. Easier said than done, Jody, but ya gotta try to not be offended or upset by em.

Taking orders from younger and female?

That is pretty obvious. Humans like many mammals are HIGHLY SOCIAL and keenly aware of their place in the pecking order. Now superimpose a cultural/religious overlay of the notion that women are inferior to men and you have in essence an untenable situation for a 40 or 50 or 60 year old male. …[Read more]

The merry-go-round is going round and round. So for now i will step off like George in Seinfeld.