King Iyk wrote:
Like I said to Johan: The concept of the Trinity has long confounded the minds of humanity, defying the bounds of conventional logic. Any equation that seeks to embody the essence of the Trinity must equally transcend the confines of rational constructs.

There is no such thing as 3 in 1 being 1 or whatever.  It is only seen in…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
Can you please take Elon Musk back then.

Sure.  In me Loving Him as a Family Member of God’s Family I would Love to do it.  But the problem is with him.  He enjoys his life in who he is too much to become a Child of God.   Where He is equal with all His other Brothers.

The “True Scotsman is a logic fallacy common to theist…

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_Robert_ wrote:
What sort of loving father gives up on their kids (including babies and animals) and intentionally drowns them all in a flood?

He only took them to Himself.  And they learn a most valuable Truth.  Bad actions creates bad consequences.

What kind of father demands one of his children to murder his child to demonstrate o…

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King Iyk wrote:
A person could be an entity.

Now in Jesus a person is a God.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
I am more of a 2 Timothy 2:15

Paul wrote that.  And He knew He was creating Living Bibles.  Just as Jesus was and did also.

_Robert_ wrote:
Yes, we have the “One True Scotsman” here. As are all the others, LOL.

Nope.  I am “One True South African” here.  As are all the others, LOL.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
This might help with your Bible studies.

It is about Living and not studying.  Studies is never ever never ever from God.

_Robert_ wrote:
This is your last chance before it’s time for me to ignore you.

In God’s Love when you are saved you have Everlasting Relationships.   So lonely to “ignore” your Brothers you have to Love.

King Iyk wrote:
The Objective of this Proof is to prove The One True God is The Triune God and it intends to do so by demonstrating how three members of The Trinity could be united as one God: The very nature of The Triune God by way of Mathematics and The Word of God.

The only prove God accepts and work with is you changing from trying to…[Read more]

King Iyk wrote:
This conversation we are having has immortalized you as well.

They always were.  But if not accepted they can not enjoy that now.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Johan – How do you know there is only one god? Are 1.2 billion Hindus wrong? Their gods were around long before Jesus was mentioned. Are you sure King Iyk is an immortal too?

The only way.  Asking Him personally.   What other way can there be?  He is a Father and any Father Loves the few Kids who actually desir…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
Yes, we have the “One True Scotsman” here. As are all the others, LOL.

And who is he, LOL.

jakelafort wrote:
That is a great pic of the monkey god. I once met a Hindu guy at his new Indian restaurant. I had been friendly with his wife at one point. Say no more. Anyways he starts telling me about the monkey god. I had to bite my lip so freakin hard to keep from laughing. I caan hepit.

So you were too scared to assist the poor guy?   A…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
If you lived in India with your Hindu grandparents and parents maybe you would have met Hanuman, the monkey god instead.

Sure.  But the Living God would still have saved me from that religion too.

He embodies humility unlike your god who is a self-admitted jealous, murderous dictator.

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jakelafort wrote:
Love it. Reg has the senolytic emetic, emphatic about being socratic. Makes sense.

Not much there for our topic.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Johan and King Iyk – do you both believe in the same God? @king Iyk, are you also an immortal like Johan?

Sure.  There is only One God.  We are just different Brothers in different Spiritual Age.  Some of us are Older and some are Younger.  And the Older assist the Younger to grow up to where they are.

_Robert_ wrote:
Yeah, it is amazing how the one true religion is by far the most likely the one you were indoctrinated into and depends on your regional culture.

I was indoctrinated with Calvinism.  And then I met the God of the Bible.   And gave up all religious thinking for Living With Him as My Dad in my Soul.   And manifesting His Life to all I meet.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Johan, do you really believe you will exist in 473,000,016 years time?

Everlasting Life is not that short.  You missed it.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Yes, Johan, the Bible is true because it is the inspired word of god and god would not lie because he is god so the Bible is true.

Nope.  It is True because it c…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
accept the conclusion that “I have only one life and my death is the end of my existence”.

Sad.  And of course creates fear of death.  While I look forward to a Greater Life after death in Joy and Excitement.  Which give my Life on earth so much more Purpose and Fulfillment.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
The theist…

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jakelafort wrote:
how do you get yourself to ardently wholeheartedly and without a shred of doubt to believe the most transparent crap?

Only one way this can happen.  In meeting with the Living God Himself.  And enjoying this Great Person in a Love Relationship.

_Robert_ wrote:
Like Reg says…it is the quest for immortality and fear of death that works behind the scenes. Wanting to reunite with loved ones in the clouds.

And then you have the Truth.  It is about Relationship of Love with the Living God.  Of course He also settles our “fear of death” which now exists only in you.  And of course we have our…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
3.) The Word: Proves The Bible to be The Word of God….. such circular reasoning merits a zero, which happens to better represent god.

When you don’t know what is being said then you will say this is “circular reasoning”.   The Word means to us the Word of God which creates Life.   And in the Bible the Life those…[Read more]

King Iyk wrote:
The Holy Trinity: A single God existing as three identical entities. In the concept of The Trinity, Three and One are the same.

I see no Word of God which Edifies anyone in it.  Can you show us where it is, Brother?

1 Cor. 14: 26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine,…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:
We have no clue what this number play is all about. I think it’s seriously clutching at straws.

All the denominations exists in the evil spirit of strife.  They all have to find something that looks clever to keep their followers paying them for giving them something clever by which to “debunk” the others.   That is why I di…[Read more]

King Iyk wrote:
The Ways of God are distinct from the ways of Men. This believe that “numerology” cannot be used to prove God’s existent is unfounded and The Proof presented here proves that.

Jesus said the real sign is the sign of “Jonas” and not “numbers”.  Do you have any clue what that is about?

jakelafort wrote:
the failure to convince humanity as a block, the failure to engender anything rationally related to morality, the failure to create tolerance and compassion for ‘others’ against the backdrop of demanding faith is an exercise not only in futility but a pathetic unwinnable endeavor.

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_Robert_ wrote:
Proof of god would be a Nobel Prize type event.

This is the heart of it all.   You have it or you don’t have it.

King Iyk wrote:
Trinity: A single God existing as three identical entities.

God is one Person only.  His name is Jehovah/Yahweh.  He was always the Savior and still is and always will be.

Isaiah 43:  8 Bring forth the blind people that have eyes, and the deaf that have ears.  9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the peoples be as…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
I have noticed over the years the super culty christians end up on atheist sites sometimes because the more popular christian cults reject them so hard.

You are right that I am rejected by all in my hometown where they even persecute me.  But that does not mean you are the “left overs”.  Dad Loves you too.   And in my per…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Johan, nobody here as any ‘daddy issues’.

Interesting.  I had many when I was still a sinner.  My dad got angry at me and I at him.  He got irritated at me and I at him.  He got offended at me and I at him.   But after The Real Dad paid my sins and I was saved from them i could always just Love all.  I was saved from…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Why would any theist believe that?

They will never.  And it is not for them because they rejected the Living God speaking to them in Revelation.  But the Real Kids of God who have a Relationship with the Living God will believe it when their Dad confirms it to them personally.  And they will enter the Second co…[Read more]

King Iyk wrote:
God is a master at double, triple, quadruple-entendre. The Cross could represent all

You don’t believe you died on the cross and were born again as Jesus Christ, Son of Jehovah/Yahweh?

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
But in no way is the Cross, as a symbol, unique to your religion.

It is.  Because there we died as humans and got born of God in His Godly Being.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
You, like most theists are presupposing the existence of your god.

Real Children of God actually met Him.  Because He came to them in their d…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
See, you lied and said you were an adult.

In human life I am.  But we get born again from God and become His Child whom He raises in His Life.   As is the case for all life He created on planet earth.  So that makes me a God too.  As oppose to you being a human god creating your own life I am created by God to enjoy His Life…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
Christians are fear-based prey for priests and preachers like Jim Baker.

All religions are fear based.  But the Children of God with Him as their Daddy is love based.  Thus they don’t have priests but Brothers.

jakelafort wrote:
Mam, you are wearing a cross and have a bible in your back seat. Please step out of the car. You are under arrest for gross stupidity detrimental to public safety and the greater culture.

Yep.  God never was interested in those things.  But our Hearts.  Where we accept Him as our Dad and are raised by Him in His Godly Life.  Whe…[Read more]

Unseen wrote:
An omnipotent and omniscient being would know how to prove himself without resorting to revealing himself through mathematics.

Totally right.  That is why those who desire Him as Father meet with Him.   Those who don’t care about that is not disturbed by Him in His Love for them.

_Robert_ wrote:
What a zero-content response. Your babble tells you not to rely on your own intelligence. You are in perfect compliance. Congrats.

Congrats.  you managed to write on “zero-content”.  As for my “intelligence”.  I knew that is not up to par with God.  So i accepted His Way of Living.  Which is Love and not intellect.   And now I…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
Nothing wakes you up more to how far gone humans are than a person under the influence of religion.

Yep.  I agree.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
If Man is five, if Man is five If Man is five, then the Devil is six Then the Devil is six, then the Devil is six The Devil is six, and if the Devil is six Then God is seven! Then God is seven! Then God is seven! This monkey’s gone to heaven.

Nice poem.  Thanks.

Simon Paynton wrote:
It sounds like an arbitrary quirk of number theory.

You sure there is nothing else?

_Robert_ wrote:
You look like an adult in your picture.

You saw well.

How can you be so scientifically illiterate that you think the “Adam and Eve” myth is a historical event?

How can you be so mistaken by “thinking” I do?

Since there are two different opposing versions in Genesis, which one to believe? Hmmm.

Both

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King Iyk wrote:
Then, you should be able to spot blemishes in the proof presented above?

Sure.  God created man in His Image.  One Person only.  Just like Us.  That is how we can enter with Him in a Child Father Relationship.   And In Jesus He died for us and not a “son” of His.  Jesus was a body He created for Himself in Mary to Live the Word o…[Read more]

Simon Paynton wrote:
I think it’s interesting, but I don’t see what it has to do with anything. Anybody can draw any shape onto any map of the landscape, and call it significant.

To me it is rather Discipline of the Living God.  He Loves all as His Kids.  And those believing in this “slave master” and His “exalted followers” whom all have to wo…[Read more]

_Robert_ wrote:
Yes, the depths of wannabe, pattern-seeking slaves to find “tHE tRUTH”, on full display here.

You are totally right.  Worshiping a God creates you a slave of Him.  That is why many loves to have a god to be worshiped because they are worshiped too as “pastors, apostles, reverends, bishops and popes”.   And to get away with their l…[Read more]

PopeBeanie wrote:
Christian or other, written by men who believe strongly in what God is or wants, without any evidence at all that it is the actual word of God.

I agree.  The actual Word of God creates Life.  If the words you write is just religion it is prove that you have only a “mindset” on your particular “god” who is no God at a…[Read more]

The work Testifies to The Truth.

How can a Father send “His Son” to die when He can do it Himself, Brother?   And then “his Son” reap the Love afterwards and He is just worthy of a disgrace?

King Iyk wrote:
Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire,

Yep.  These religious ones in the Christian religion mostly believe God sacrificed His Son, Jesus for the sins of the world.  That is what religion does.  It has an “understanding of God”.  But the mind can not fathom God and you can only know God in…[Read more]

Autumn wrote:

If I had to guess,

Yep.  you have to guess if you feared to get off the God Bus and to take a look for yourself.  Or of course you act in deceit in having looked.  Because humans are normally very inquisitive.  So there is no reason to think you are not a normal human being, Sister.  Both evil spirits are very rampant in human live…[Read more]