The Mathematical Proof of God, The Holy Trinity

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    _Robert_
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    Christians are fear-based prey for priests and preachers like Jim Baker.

    All religions are fear based. But the Children of God with Him as their Daddy is love based. Thus they don’t have priests but Brothers.

    See, you lied and said you were an adult. Daddy’s gonna spank you good when he gets home. Maybe give up on all children-of-the-3rd-string-Canaanite-storm-god garbage and worship the true Spaghetti Monster God. It’s way more fulfilling and saucier too.

    Whatever you do…when you behold His Glory, do not look at his Meatballs. He will show you his backside, however.

    #55776

    The work Testifies to The Truth. “If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?” in Matthew 12:26

    That verse in no way undermines the verse I quoted. Are you saying the Bible contradicts itself?

    Your claim that humans are created in the image of a Trinity, with three distinct parts, is a subjective interpretation. Human anatomy can be categorized in various ways (e.g., head, torso, limbs), and reducing it to a triadic structure is an oversimplification that aligns with your desired narrative rather than any objective analysis. Would you claim that apes were created in your gods’ image too?

    Pointing out that adding 9 to a number doesn’t change its digital root and that multiplying a number by 9 results in a product whose digits sum to 9. These are well-known properties in modular arithmetic, specifically in base-10, and do not indicate any supernatural significance. Again, your ‘deduction’ is just your own subjective interpretation.

    What don’t you try Godel’s ontological argument as it is a much better at modal logic. We will then show you what is wrong with it too.

    #55777

    @_Robert_, from the picture above, I guess Moses coined the term “glory hole”.

    #55778

    King Iyk
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    “Your claim that humans are created in the image of a Trinity, with three distinct parts, is a subjective interpretation. Human anatomy can be categorized in various ways (e.g., head, torso, limbs)”

    The Cross is the representation of The trinity. On The cross Man is comprised of three distinct entities all connect and controlled by 1 (The head)

    “Pointing out that adding 9 to a number doesn’t change its digital root and that multiplying a number by 9 results in a product whose digits sum to 9. These are well-known properties in modular arithmetic, specifically in base-10, and do not indicate any supernatural significance. Again, your ‘deduction’ is just your own subjective interpretation.”

    Modular Arithmetic tells you the “How” but does not tell you the “why”. The proof explains why that is: 9 is The Triune Number.

    #55779

    Simon Paynton
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    The proof explains why that is: 9 is The Triune Number.

    Can you sum up in a paragraph, how you inject God into the number 9?  Maths is just maths.

    #55780

    The concept of transformation or enlightenment through suffering and sacrifice is symbolized in the cruciform pose. This is most famously represented in Christian mythology with the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.  So yes, “the Cross is the representation of The trinity” in your version of your religion. But in no way is the Cross, as a symbol, unique to your religion.

    Similar themes exist in other traditions, such as the Norse god Odin hanging from Yggdrasil to gain wisdom or in Egyptian mythology where a cross with a loop at the top (ankh) signifies eternal life and was often depicted being held by gods to represent their life-giving power. Even the Swastika in Hinduism (and Buddhism) while visually distinct from a Christian cross, represents the cycles of life, and cosmic balance.

    In Ireland (where I am based) the Celtic Cross combines with a circle, representing the fusion of Christian and pagan symbolism, often tied to the sun and spiritual unity. The Mayan and Aztec cultures used cross-like symbols to represent the tree of life or the central axis connecting humanity to the divine.

    In ancient European and Native American mythologies, the Solar cross represents the sun’s movement through the sky or the cyclical nature of time.

    You, like most theists are presupposing the existence of your god. You look for proof and abandon faith when you think you have found it. The pattern you present in your “proof” might seem intriguing to you, but they are products of mathematical properties inherent to our numbering system and human-imposed structures. Interpreting these patterns as divine evidence (or taking them as proof, as you do) involves confirmation bias and overlooks the natural explanations for these numerical occurrences.

    #55781

    “The Cross is the representation of The trinity”.

    You are the only Christian I have heard ever say that. All the others tell me that the Cross is a representation of the death and, more importantly to them, the resurrection of Christ.

    #55782

    King Iyk
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    ““the Cross is the representation of The trinity” in your version of your religion. But in no way is the Cross, as a symbol, unique to your religion.”

    Other traditions utilizing The Cross does not prevent God from selecting it as His chosen medium of self-revelation.

    “The Cross is the representation of The trinity”. You are the only Christian I have heard ever say that. All the others tell me that the Cross is a representation of the death and, more importantly to them, the resurrection of Christ.”

    God is a master at double, triple, quadruple-entendre. The Cross could represent all

    #55783

    Johan
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    See, you lied and said you were an adult.

    In human life I am.  But we get born again from God and become His Child whom He raises in His Life.   As is the case for all life He created on planet earth.  So that makes me a God too.  As oppose to you being a human god creating your own life I am created by God to enjoy His Life.

    Whatever you do…when you behold His Glory, do not look at his Meatballs

    Yep.  Humans are interested in that.  We are not.  We look at His Glory of His Character in which we grow up.  Which is Perfect.  As oppose to human sinning existence.

    #55784

    Johan
    Participant

    But in no way is the Cross, as a symbol, unique to your religion.

    It is.  Because there we died as humans and got born of God in His Godly Being.

    You, like most theists are presupposing the existence of your god.

    Real Children of God actually met Him.  Because He came to them in their desire to meet.

    You look for proof and abandon faith when you think you have found it.

    When we find God’s Faith which creates Life then of course we abandon human powerless faith.

    You are the only Christian I have heard ever say that. All the others tell me that the Cross is a representation of the death and, more importantly to them, the resurrection of Christ.

    I totally agree with you.  But what is more.  There we died as humans and were born again as God’s Kids in His Great Life.  Where we start existing in our New Name and Life in Jesus.

    #55785

    Johan
    Participant

    God is a master at double, triple, quadruple-entendre. The Cross could represent all

    You don’t believe you died on the cross and were born again as Jesus Christ, Son of Jehovah/Yahweh?

    #55786

    God is a master at double, triple, quadruple-entendre. The Cross could represent all..

    On what authority do you claim this?

    #55787

    You don’t believe you died on the cross and were born again as Jesus Christ, Son of Jehovah/Yahweh?

    Why would any theist believe that? Jesus died for your sins so that you don’t have to. He saved you from having to do so. Be grateful to him. Stop saying it means something else 🙂

    You all seem to be making up your own versions.

    The word “Trinity” is not mentioned in the Bible at all. It was first used by Tertullian, an early Christian theologian, in the late 2nd or early 3rd century CE. While the Bible contains passages that are interpreted as supporting the doctrine (e.g., Matthew 28:19 and John 1:1-14), the specific word itself is not present in the biblical texts.

    #55808

    Johan
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    Why would any theist believe that?

    They will never.  And it is not for them because they rejected the Living God speaking to them in Revelation.  But the Real Kids of God who have a Relationship with the Living God will believe it when their Dad confirms it to them personally.  And they will enter the Second coming of Jesus in this Creation by Him.  Which all are expecting.  They were just waiting on this Word to be spoken.

    Jesus died for your sins so that you don’t have to

    That is the tradition now and the first Words of God to His Kids.   Now He is moving on.  It was Jehovah/Yahweh who died in Jesus in order for His Kids to have a death to themselves as humans and be born again as the Real Jesus Christ.  From the Word of Jesus which Jehovah Lived in Jesus on earth.

    Be grateful to him

    Sure I am Grateful for His first Words to Me where I grew by them.  And now I am Grateful for more Revelation where I got it and all of His Kids growing up in His Life as their Dad will be Grateful for New Revelation.

    Stop saying it means something else

    I don’t.  We are just Growing up in the Life of our Dad, Jehovah/Yahweh and enter more and more Revelation from Him to grow further.   And now the Real Jesus is getting born.   In His second coming.  Where the first Jesus was the Word of Jehovah.  And the Word of Jehovah creates the Real Jesus.  The actual Person who is Greater than the Word Lived by Jehovah in a body He created for Himself in Mary to Live the Word.

    You all seem to be making up your own versions.

    That is how the theists also persecute me for saying what I say.    Because they Truth can not be refuted by their lies.   Thus they have to enter persecution in saying I am a “deceiver”.   But I am a Receiver.

    The word “Trinity” is not mentioned in the Bible at all.

    I agree. It is used by those “thinking” about the Bible and not having Revelation from the Living God Himself.  There is only One Word in the Bible.  God is One Person only.  And He is Jehovah/Yahweh and not Jesus.  Jesus is His Word.  By which He saves everyone.  But He was always the Savior and still is.  And in Jesus He died on the cross and not some “Jesus his son”.  And in Jesus the Living Word He gave birth to us to be the Sons in the Name of Jesus.   The Real Jesus in other words are His Kids.  And they just need these Words and then the Revelation from God Himself which will be their creation.

    Exciting times are ahead.  Buckle up!

    #55809

    Johan, nobody here as any ‘daddy issues’.  Not even late of Friday nights. Maybe the more than 13,ooo children under 5 years old that die each day would have if any of it was real. Die antwoord might be Jesus for you but it makes no sense telling us here. We don’t believe in any god.

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