Seth Rosen
@sethirosen
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_Robert_ replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 1 week ago
It sounds like the guy didn’t know he was hurting people by ghosting them, when he should have done, because he was. Maybe British people are used to it, it’s normal to them, so they expect it. He had a failure of empathy (cognitive perspective-taking) driven by a lack of empathic concern (caring). He should have cared eno…
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 1 week ago
It sounds like the guy didn’t know he was hurting people by ghosting them, when he should have done, because he was. Maybe British people are used to it, it’s normal to them, so they expect it.
He had a failure of empathy (cognitive perspective-taking) driven by a lack of empathic concern (caring). He should have cared enough about someone he w…[Read more]
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Davis replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Pope, you definitely touched on a genuine aspect of why ghosting is so easy. For some people it does require flexing unflexed muscles. In my work, we have to use extreme care with everyword and put significant thought into how we phrase things. This is the opposite of typical locker room talk, where in my icehockey changeroom every ginger is…[Read more]
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Davis replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Thanks for all your replies. I would say that you don’t have to be specific when letting someone down. In your trans case, just tell the person you’re sorry for wasting their time, you aren’t feeling it and wish them the best.
To give you an idea of how prevalent ghosti g is in Scotland, I had chatted with a lad for 5 weeks, almost daily.…[Read more]
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PopeBeanie replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
In the context of this group, and your topic, specific question and my experience, I don’t think much in terms of valence wrt morality or what’s “wrong”. I focus on improving my recognition and employment of empathy, which has been a decades long process for me. I’d say that empathy plus objectivity, together with limitations on expectations and…[Read more]
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PopeBeanie replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
I’ve not yet read other responses, to give my most unbiased opinion. Although I’m sure I’m a cultural outlier, I’m also fairly sure that my affinity to bonding with friends, and my level of empathy for strangers lie near the end of a human scale that goes from “really want it and need it, and take this personally” to “meh, I’m not into it and to…[Read more]
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Unseen replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Oh, and “ghosting” bills you’ve voluntarily assumed is a shit move, especially with Medical professionals who are oath-bound to “First, do no harm” and to sustain human life.
At least make payment arrangements and pay what little you can until it’s all knocked out. No debt lasts to infinity unless you never pay it.
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Unseen replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
At any given time, I’d say 20% of daters get about 80% of the action. The people everyone wants to be with. They will ghost you and not even think about.
I once saw a piece about a guy who claimed to have sex with different women several times a week. His secret: Just hang out, develop a quick rapport, and ask them up front, “…[Read more]
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TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Fellow Unbelievers,
Oh, and “ghosting” bills you’ve voluntarily assumed is a shit move, especially with Medical professionals who are oath-bound to “First, do no harm” and to sustain human life.
At least make payment arrangements and pay what little you can until it’s all knocked out. No debt lasts to infinity unless you never pay it.
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_Robert_ replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
At any given time, I’d say 20% of daters get about 80% of the action. The people everyone wants to be with. They will ghost you and not even think about.
I ghosted a few girls early on, but the town was too small, and it came back to me. So better just to give them the good news, LOL.
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TheEncogitationer replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
Fellow Unbelievers,
If it’s just incompatibility about goals, itenerary, chemistry, or styles, then, yes, courtesy and forthright communication is a good way to deal with breaking up and going separate ways.
However, if someome does something that wrecklessly or deliberately deceives and harms you, you have no obligation to “telegraph your…[Read more]
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Unseen replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
In this scenario, are you maybe doing something rude but not morally wrong? Or is it wrong?
I don’t think you can extricate the answer to that question from the context. Let’s see what I mean with a few examples. How would you analyze these hypotheticals if I behaved in these ways?
I come in contact with a woman through a dating…[Read more]
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
In this scenario, are you maybe doing something rude but not morally wrong? Or is it wrong?
It’s reasonable to politely ask to be treated as a human being, and not an ant or a fly. If nothing else, it might improve the other person’s behaviour in the future.
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Simon Paynton replied to the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
In my version of evolutionary ethics, ghosting would come under the category of “unnecessary harm”. Most of the time, people could take the time to let someone down gently and using words rather than ghosting. So they don’t need to be causing this harm by ghosting. They are able to give benefit rather than harm, and what’s more, they have a re…[Read more]
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Davis started the topic Ethical dilemma: Ghosting in the forum To Do or not To Do 5 months, 2 weeks ago
When I lived in Spain, I was ghosted by about 10% of guys, though rarely after a longer exchange. Since I’ve been in Scotland, its more like 95%, many after a long chat. It has become so common, I rarely chat with locals as I simply have little faith we will ever meet or that the conversation will go anywhere. I personally find ghosting…[Read more]
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Unseen replied to the topic Who to watch in the next few years? in the forum Politics 7 months, 2 weeks ago
Do you believe that enough people trying to listen to that mess of overlapping dialog could actually understand most of the questions and answers? Vivek does that all the time, and I wonder if fast talking while looking more confident than a used car salesman might actually prove to be an effective campaign strategy.
All I know…[Read more]
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PopeBeanie replied to the topic Who to watch in the next few years? in the forum Politics 7 months, 2 weeks ago
Speaking of Vivek Ramaswamy, his campaign died in one interview by Mehdi Hasan.
Do you believe that enough people trying to listen to that mess of overlapping dialog could actually understand most of the questions and answers? Vivek does that all the time, and I wonder if fast talking while looking more confident than a used car…[Read more]
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Unseen replied to the topic Who to watch in the next few years? in the forum Politics 7 months, 2 weeks ago
Speaking of Vivek Ramaswamy, his campaign died in one interview by Mehdi Hasan. You rarely see anyone so thoroughly and successfully (though not to his benefit) avoid answering a simple question:
almost as devastating as when Chris Wallace (while on Fox!) destroyed Trump attorney Jay…[Read more]
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PopeBeanie replied to the topic Who to watch in the next few years? in the forum Politics 7 months, 2 weeks ago
This should become an interesting states’ rights vs their political parties’ issue. I haven’t researched the possibilities yet, but I wonder if the only meaningful judgement in constitutionality might come from SCOTUS. While Trump hasn’t been convicted, what powers DO a state’s executive branch have over political party behaviors?
Isn’t such…[Read more]
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Unseen replied to the topic Who to watch in the next few years? in the forum Politics 8 months, 1 week ago
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