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Love it. Reg has the senolytic emetic, emphatic about being socratic. Makes sense.

Johan and King Iyk – do you both believe in the same God? @King Iyk, are you also an immortal like Johan?

_Robert_ wrote:
Yeah, it is amazing how the one true religion is by far the most likely the one you were indoctrinated into and depends on your regional culture.

I was indoctrinated with Calvinism.  And then I met the God of the Bible.   And gave up all religious thinking for Living With Him as My Dad in my Soul.   And manifesting His Life to all I meet.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Johan, do you really believe you will exist in 473,000,016 years time?

Everlasting Life is not that short.  You missed it.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
Yes, Johan, the Bible is true because it is the inspired word of god and god would not lie because he is god so the Bible is true.

Nope.  It is True because it c…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
accept the conclusion that “I have only one life and my death is the end of my existence”.

Sad.  And of course creates fear of death.  While I look forward to a Greater Life after death in Joy and Excitement.  Which give my Life on earth so much more Purpose and Fulfillment.

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
The theist…

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Johan, do you really believe you will exist in 473,000,016 years time?

jakelafort wrote:
how do you get yourself to ardently wholeheartedly and without a shred of doubt to believe the most transparent crap?

Only one way this can happen.  In meeting with the Living God Himself.  And enjoying this Great Person in a Love Relationship.

Yes, Johan, the Bible is true because it is the inspired word of god and god would not lie because he is god so the Bible is true.

_Robert_ wrote:
Like Reg says…it is the quest for immortality and fear of death that works behind the scenes. Wanting to reunite with loved ones in the clouds.

And then you have the Truth.  It is about Relationship of Love with the Living God.  Of course He also settles our “fear of death” which now exists only in you.  And of course we have our…[Read more]

Ever try reasoning with them?

Yes. But it is always a futile task because no one has ever reasoned themselves into the beliefs they hold. No theist ever sat down and decided to look at all the world’s religions and chose the one with the best evidence for it. This is because there is no evidence for any of them. Only subjective arguments.  …[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
3.) The Word: Proves The Bible to be The Word of God….. such circular reasoning merits a zero, which happens to better represent god.

When you don’t know what is being said then you will say this is “circular reasoning”.   The Word means to us the Word of God which creates Life.   And in the Bible the Life those…[Read more]

Clearly, The Warning is special, but what’s their secret?

Robert and Reg i am on board examining religion through prism of evolution and culture. Valid.

But what interests me most is the biology of religious belief. Turns out and i was unaware there is a field known as neurotheology. I would love to see studies relating brain development of babies/kids who are unindoctrinated v indoctrinated. I am…[Read more]

Yeah, it is amazing how the one true religion is by far the most likely the one you were indoctrinated into and depends on your regional culture. One would think this points to obvious validity problems with all religion, but no….mine is true and thus all others are lesser humans.

It is beyond stupid and provides great utility great when so…[Read more]

Recently I have been considering religion from a cultural viewpoint. Most people start life with the same cognitive machinery in their skulls. But the development of inherited intelligence and critical thinking skills are dependent on how “the village” views the importance of education. In the societies with the highest level of personal fre…[Read more]

For me, bananas have about 1/2-hour window when they are not too green but not overripe either, LOL.

Sure, the rare pensive ape might get caught (while deep in thought) and become a meal…

jakelafort wrote:
Robert, that explains the emotional attachment but how do you get yourself to ardently wholeheartedly and without a shred of doubt to believe the most transparent crap? We use words like compartmentalize and dichotomize but it is kind of hollow. I hope some day neurologists explain the ‘mechanics’ of indoctrination and uns…

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Robert, that explains the emotional attachment but how do you get yourself to ardently wholeheartedly and without a shred of doubt to believe the most transparent crap? We use words like compartmentalize and dichotomize but it is kind of hollow.

I hope some day neurologists explain the ‘mechanics’ of indoctrination and unshakeable belief. And…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
What would it take? Is there anything or anyone or a composite of the best minds of all time merged with the best LLM that is capable of persuading theists this deluded?

Like Reg says…it is the quest for immortality and fear of death that works behind the scenes. Wanting to reunite with loved ones in the clouds.  There is…[Read more]