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Now that we’re discussing, apparently seriously, whether Muslims are, as a group, stupid, shall we also ask the same about black people?

Unseen wrote:

jakelafort wrote:
’ve wondered whether Muslims are innately lower in intelligence.

Wow…just wow. All religions are superstition, but almost all advances in the past have been made in the context of some religion or other. Jews have made many great scientific and mathematical contributions which have changed the source of his…

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I have wondered and wandered lonely as a cloud that floats on high and wonders why Muslims are depraved.

Davis would roll over in his grave!

I have read the algebra thing is stolen from i forget who but considering that Islam was spread by the sword it is consistent with their history.

Comparing Jews and Muslims is like comparing…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
’ve wondered whether Muslims are innately lower in intelligence.

Wow…just wow.

All religions are superstition, but almost all advances in the past have been made in the context of some religion or other.

Jews have made many great scientific and mathematical contributions which have changed the source of history, but so h…[Read more]

jakelafort wrote:
I now no longer have any religious people in my life. At least not in my immediate family or circle of friends. It is such a blessing for us all 🙂

That worked for me. I left town, and family, at 19. And drifted away from any believing acquaintances.

Unseen wrote:

‘DOUBT’. Doubt is often considered to be the voice of Satan in…

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Here are a few Muslim voices.

God mood changes so climate changes

God plans can change with the mood swing of the God with time to astonish and change people way of thinking

We don’t use black magic or white magic but if we go on to do it on atheists then they will be no more exist in this world

We Muslims must break all the statues from all…[Read more]

Reg, do you think most of the deconverted are happy to have had their world view challenged and deconstructed?

Most of the apostates i know are ultimately very happy about it. It is a liberating experience. I do remember one who was unhappy but otherwise it was positive for those in my sphere.

Having an affinity for those in consanguinity cause diseases that eases when we die.

I’ve wondered whether Muslims are innately lower in intelligence. Is it true? At least in the FB atheist v Muslim ability to reason is negligible. I’d expect more from a cat. Now i can hang my hat on inbreeding. And remember the Hapsburgs? Messed up features and…[Read more]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
I agree, perfection is just a subjective opinion. A living entity just needs to evolve to be the fittest for its environment. That is, it has adapted to survive in the environment it exists in.

And, typically, it continues to evolve toward a perfect solution, rarely, if ever, actually achieving it.

I was only talking about this last week with a friend who is a medical doctor from Pakistan. Marrying someone related to you is very common. I learned a new term during that conversation…..consanguineous marriage…read more here.

jakelafort wrote:
Reg, have you deconverted many Muslims?

I read but can’t substantiate that 50% of Muslims in the UK (and a whopping 70% of Pakistanis) are inbred. If they have to stick to their “kind” this would certainly be possible.

I agree, perfection is just a subjective opinion. A living entity just needs to evolve to be the fittest for its environment. That is, it has adapted to survive in the environment it exists in.

Regarding the Dawkins article…

It is wrong to think, as many people seem to do, that we humans are the pinnacle of humankind, that lions and tigers are the pinnacle of cathood, that the evolutionary process is complete now.

In fact, here’s how evolution works: when a trait helps a creature adapt, it tends to become incorporated; when it…[Read more]

Yes, I have helped some to de-convert themselves. These would be mostly ‘cultural Muslims’ whose parents were immigrants to Ireland. I guess many were halfway out the door and just needed to be able to reason themselves the rest of the way. There seems to be a brain fog zone where we know something is not true but can’t quite put our finger on…[Read more]

Reg, have you deconverted many Muslims?

One of the best answers is “I don’t know”.

It can be a good answer. It is better than pretending to have certainty. But humans prefer to have an answer, even if it is the wrong answer. It is like the post during the week about not wanting to think. Many no longer seem to possess any ability to do so and apart from their basic executive funct…[Read more]

Thanks, Reg!!

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:
It is not disbelief that is dangerous to our society; it is belief.

That is very true.  One of the best answers is “I don’t know”.

Have a great week everyone!

The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it. It is not disbelief that is dangerous to our society; it is belief.

–George Bernard Shaw