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  • #47752

    Unseen
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    I asked ChatGPT to write a sonnet about faeries, and the result was, surpringly, not terrible and with some tweaking, could be not half bad:

    Oh, faeries fair, of ancient myth and lore
    With wings of gossamer, and eyes of light
    In mystic realms, where time stands still, and more
    Your magic dances through the starry night

    Amidst the woods, you flit and play and sing
    With tinkling laughter, like a babbling brook
    Your ethereal presence, pure enchanting
    The secrets of the forest, in you they’re hooked

    Oh, faeries bright, with hearts so pure and free
    You paint the flowers, and make the meadows glow
    In your embrace, all sorrows cease to be
    And joy and wonder, evermore they grow

    Oh, how we long to see your magic play
    In gardens green, and woodlands far away.

    #47753

    Unseen
    Participant

    A limerick about a cat without using the word “cat”:

    On cushion, whiskers and fur,
    A four-legged purring sir,
    Soft paws and tail in air,
    His presence is always fair,
    This furry companion does purr.

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    However, this happened when I asked it to write a 12-line poem about loyalty. The poem is surprisingly good. Frankly, I doubt I could do its equal.  It is definitely high enough in quality to get a “B” or “A” in a creative writing class on the college level. HOWEVER,  for some reason, after the 12th line it kept going:

    Loyalty, a bond that cannot break,
    A promise kept, through give and take,
    A steadfast heart, that’s always true,
    In good times and in moments blue.

    It’s standing firm, when others fall,
    And holding tight, through it all,
    A friendship built on trust and care,
    A love that lasts, beyond compare.

    It’s walking side by side, through strife,
    And never wavering, in this life,
    For loyalty is a sacred tie,
    That binds our hearts, until we die.

    So let us cherish, this precious trait,
    And honor those, who demonstrate,
    The strength of loyalty, in all they do,
    For it’s a virtue, rare and true.

    #47754

    _Robert_
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    Not bad at all. Gonna be a little more involved to get that subtle double entendre or comic irony that skillful meat computers employ in poetry.

    #47755

    jakelafort
    Participant

    That poem is on a par with the crap i write off top of head but it takes me a few minutes to produce similar dreck.

    #47756

    Unseen
    Participant

    Not bad at all. Gonna be a little more involved to get that subtle double entendre or comic irony that skillful meat computers employ in poetry.

    Did you notice that ChatGPT shows no awareness of slant-rhymes like bent/want, wander/asunder, and crate/braid.

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    #47758

    I have been using it to write a lot of Powershell and coding scripts for a few months. It has never made a mistake. Remember that poem I got it to write about Hitchens? Only took it a few seconds. I will see if it gives different answers now that it has had time to learn more.  I won’t mention August 29th at any point 🙂

    #47759

    TheEncogitationer
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    Unseen,

    All that is very impressive, but it will be free form William Shatner For The Win:

    https://youtu.be/mO_gHvckBx4

    #47760

    Unseen
    Participant

    In this example, ChatGPT writes  a sonnet comparing cats and dogs that displays a human-like understanding and appreciation of the reasons we love these two animals. Note also the use of slant rhyming:

    In cats and dogs, two pets so well-beloved,
    We find a contrast, yet they both inspire,
    One’s independent, aloof, and well-groomed,
    The other loyal, social, and so much higher.

    A cat, with eyes that peer right through the soul,
    Will lounge in luxury, no need for praise,
    It’s proud and poised, a creature that’s so droll,
    It goes about its business in its own ways.

    But dogs, they crave attention and affection,
    And bring such love that’s boundless and intense,
    They’re faithful, loyal, almost like an addiction,
    A joy that never fades or grows more dense.

    In cats, we find a calmness and a grace,
    In dogs, a love that lights up every space.

    Not as impressively-written as the poem about loyalty, but amazing nonetheless.

     

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    #47762

    jakelafort
    Participant

    The sonnet is particularly bad. Written in part like an essay, bereft of feeling. Garbage in garbage out.

    #47763

    jakelafort
    Participant

    Yes i remember, i recall. Not that i forgot at all.

    #47769

    jakelafort
    Participant

    The Hitch poem was pretty good. The others am not impressed. The capacity to produce dreck on demand is noteworthy.

    Similarly the analysis is superficial and unimpressive. Pope asked- do entangled particles connect through another dimension? Not sure its response is better than a C in a high school test.

    “Entangled particles are two or more particles that are connected in a way that their states are correlated, even when separated by a large distance.” He did not ask for a definition of entangled particles. And just like a kid who does not know a great deal about the topic throws in anything that is related.

    “This correlation is a consequence of the laws of quantum mechanics. / According to quantum mechanics, entangled particles do not connect through another dimension. Instead, their correlation is described by a mathematical relationship known as quantum entanglement. When two particles are entangled, measuring the state of one particle instantly determines the state of the other particle, regardless of the distance between them.”

    Is the correlation a consequence? Or is it consistent with or governed by? Perhaps that is nitpicking on my part. The according to quantum mechanics line is tantamount to a because god answer. It is an answer from authority. There is no analysis in the answer. I know very little about quantum mechanics (does anyone really?) but i knew the information the facacta computa furnished. There is nothing explaining the viewpoint that entangled particles connect through another dimension and why that is not likely to be correct.

    If you find utility in it that is great but to this point it is very limited.

    #47770

    Unseen
    Participant

    The sonnet is particularly bad. Written in part like an essay, bereft of feeling. Garbage in garbage out.

    “The sonnet”? There are two. If you mean the first one, as I noted it could use some work. However, I rather like the one about cats and dogs and were I teaching poetry-writing would look on it favorably.

    Does it stack up to sonnets by Shakespeare, Bowning, Petrach, or even Cummings and Berryman. No, of course not. It would be unlikely for even a fairly talented college student to be writing on that level.

    #47771

    Unseen
    Participant

    The Hitch poem was pretty good. The others am not impressed. The capacity to produce dreck on demand is noteworthy.

    Similarly the analysis is superficial and unimpressive. Pope asked- do entangled particles connect through another dimension? Not sure its response is better than a C in a high school test.

    ChatGPT seems to be better at sonnets than general poetry. When given a framework or more specific instructions, in other words. At least when writing poetry. Here’s a sonnet about Hitchens:

    In tribute to the man who spoke his mind
    A writer, speaker, iconoclast, and sage
    With wit and wisdom, he was never blind
    To challenge dogma and expose its cage

    His voice was bold, his pen a sharp-edged sword
    No topic was taboo, no thought unsaid
    A contrarian, he always struck a chord
    And challenged us to question what we’re fed

    Christopher Hitchens, fearless in his quest
    For truth and reason, never swayed by fear
    His words will echo on, a lasting crest
    To pierce the darkness and the fog of cheer

    Though he is gone, his legacy remains
    A voice for freedom, that forever reigns.

    As for the critique of the entanglement essay, obviously ChatGPT isn’t ready to do highly speculative analyses of such an “out there” question, much less original research—and maybe we should hope it never is. What more can one expect in response to such a question than basically a research project?

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    #47774

    Unseen
    Participant

    Is there a reason not to lie even when lying helps one achieve a desirable goal?

    ChatGPT replies…

    Yes, there are several reasons why it is generally not advisable to lie, even if it helps you achieve a desirable goal in the short term.

    Firstly, lying can erode trust and damage relationships. When you lie to someone, you are essentially deceiving them and breaking the trust that they have placed in you. If the lie is discovered, it can lead to a breakdown in the relationship and a loss of credibility that can be difficult to repair.

    Secondly, lying can have long-term negative consequences, even if it helps you achieve a desirable goal in the short term. If you get caught in a lie, it can damage your reputation and make it harder for you to achieve your goals in the future. It can also lead to legal or financial consequences, depending on the nature of the lie.

    Finally, lying can also have a negative impact on your own sense of integrity and self-worth. If you consistently lie in order to achieve your goals, it can erode your own sense of ethics and values, and make you feel guilty or ashamed of your actions.

    In general, it is better to be honest and transparent in your interactions with others, even if it means that you have to work harder or take a different approach to achieve your goals. This will help you build trust, maintain relationships, and establish a reputation for integrity and honesty that will serve you well in the long term.

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    So, one gets a practical answer that lacks any philosophical nuance or humanity. The best reason for not lying that I ever read or heard (can’t remember who or where) was: “When you lie, you make yourself alone in the world.”

    #47780

    jakelafort
    Participant

    Unseen, the cats and dogs poem is the one i was referring to. I think it is blech.

    And the science is
    shallow to steal a descriptor.

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