Celebration of a Departure

[PopeBeanieModerator]

Good riddance, DJ McNasty!!

 

[Belle RoseParticipant]

I predicted he would lie steal and cheat his way to re-election.

HE’S TRYING!!!

 

But thank fucking god he did not succeed. The people have spoken. BYE FELICIA!!!!

Now the question is how much he’s going to make our lives miserable from here on out….

[DavisModerator]

I suppose God would come down from the heavens and reveal himself before Trump would give a concession speech.

[Reg the Fronkey FarmerModerator]

Check out this video and some of the sidebar topics 🙂

The “Four Seasons” will be a gift to give for a long time to come.

[Glen DParticipant]

As an outsider, I’m very relieved for the US.

However, I have no expectations of Joe Biden. I hope I’m wrong, because imo  the US needs some fixing.

I can’t help but wonder if his choice of VP was deliberate .IE  That he’s aware his mental health is failing and picked someone capable of taking over if necessary .OR that he has no intention of running for a second term and has picked a VP who will be a credible choice for president next time. OR just serendipity.

The example of Ronald Reagan at his worst has just  popped into my head, I don’t know why.

Harris reads well. I guess we’ll have to wait and se how she does.

[UnseenParticipant]

Ivy wrote:

I predicted he would lie steal and cheat his way to re-election. HE’S TRYING!!! But thank fucking god he did not succeed. The people have spoken. BYE FELICIA!!!! Now the question is how much he’s going to make our lives miserable from here on out….

Apparently Melania and Justin are trying to talk him into conceding.

Now, Melania, it is said, burst into tears when it became clear her husband had won in 2016. She probably muttered something like “WTF have you done! You told me we’d lose and you parlay the added celebrity into a conservative TV network that would make us billions. Do you have any idea what hell our lives will be from now on?”

I’m not sure what Jared’s motive is It may be that he’s eager to get to work on that conservative network, which sounds like a lot more fun than four more years in the public eye.

But Trump? I’m pretty sure he’s weighing whether to continue challenging the election or just turn his attention to burning the house down on the way out. His niece, Mary Trump, a psychologist is warning us that the next couple months will be fraught with danger:

 

[—Participant]

Reg the Fronkey Farmer wrote:

The “Four Seasons” will be a gift to give for a long time to come.

I find that one hard to stomach. It has that hardcore Dunning-Kruger* feel to it it coupled with the feeling of deep sadness that his attitude gets way more play and positive feedback than it reasonably should.

*Not saying it actually is the Dunning-Kruger effect here, but it’s that smarmy arrogance as if he put that reporter in their place when in fact he just said something dumb as all fuck.

[Glen DParticipant]

@kristina

Yeah, Dunning-Kruger is very interesting.

Over my Public Service Career I often had to write performance appraisals.

Part of my process was to sit down with the person first and ask them to evaluate their own  performance.Without exception,each person was far less positive about their performance than I was. No doubt at least some were disingenuous. However,perhaps some were simply displaying an innate modesty found in psychologically healthy adults.   What do you think?

[—Participant]

Complex scenario.

Speculating: In some cases, there is a cultural trend towards modesty in certain circumstances. People seem to dislike the appearance of elitism or arrogance in those they views as inferior or in competition with them, or members of out groups. They have more tolerance for it within in groups and those who are–for whatever reason–completely non-threatening to them.

What I am getting at is large portions of the population are quickly segmented into those we’d like to see kept or pushed down and those we’re okay seeing succeed. Which may make it seem like we’d all have high opinions of ourselves. But there are many reasons we are discouraged from doing that. Being perceived as elitist is used as a prejudicial means of diminishing or dismissing our views and contributions. We end up putting in a lot of effort to counter that impression.

Also speculating, but I think people who have an earnest interest in doing well tend to assess their own performance quite critically, which isn’t inherently good or bad. In a performance review, we might fear that our evaluator/ boss will pick out the things we most fear are lacking, and will try to mitigate the situation or seize control by addressing the issue first. In a disciplinary meeting, we might attack it the opposite way and try to shift fault away from the things we’re most worried about having called out.

Not speculative: Dunning-Kruger follows a sort of bowl-shaped curve. People with lower ability are more likely to vastly overestimate themselves. People closer to average ability* are more likely to underestimate themselves. People at the high end of ability are more likely to evaluate themselves accurately. Obviously there are exceptions in all categories, but if the Dunning-Kruger effect is correct, you would expect to see many people undervaluing their contributions and abilities.

And then there are people like me who are perpetually trapped in a bubble of neuroses that make it incredibly difficult to escape our imposter syndrome. If I hadn’t spent so much of my life learning to suppress my intuitions, I’d be a total disaster in interviews.

*Pretty sure I’ve seen ability interpreted as experience, intelligence and/ or skill to the same effect. I could be wrong about that though.

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